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From [livejournal.com profile] angevin2: In The Song of Ice and Fire, which House do you belong to?



Your Score: House Targaryen


72% Dominant, 63% Extroverted, 54% Trustworthy




Ancient. Noble. Passionate to the point of insanity. Transcending lesser beings, you are of House Targaryen.



You are a dominant personality—in fact, you are the most dominant of all eight house types. You will not suffer yourself to be ignored. You will not suffer yourself to be ruled. The phrase "I will not suffer myself to _____!" was practically made for you. You are willful, arrogant, and exceedingly dangerous to screw with. With a temper like yours, anyone stupid enough to saunter into your line of fire won’t soon forget their mistake.



You are also extroverted, which means that everyone in the world knows exactly what your intentions are. Unlike your cohorts (who hide behind smiles and courtesies and court politics), you think of it as your birthright to come riding in on an enormous dragon, breathing fire and fucking your siblings. Hey, what you lack in subtlty, you make up in style!



Finally, you are trustworthy. Your absurd amounts of power and borderline psychosis are not used unjustly. Unlike many, your general aims are just and true. You were bred for rule, and the fact that you cannot rest until you are doing so is not your fault. If you make up your mind, it becomes reality. Never one for empty threats or vainglorious lies, you can only speak the truth. And the truth is "fire and blood."



Representative characters include: Daenerys Stormborn, Rhaegar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen



Similar Houses: Baratheon, Lannister,and Tully



Opposite House: Frey



When playing the game of thrones, you play it to the death.




Link: The Song of Ice and Fire House Test written by Geeky_Stripper on OkCupid Free Online Dating, home of the The Dating Persona Test




Best line: "You will not suffer yourself to be ruled. The phrase "I will not suffer myself to _____!" was practically made for you. It was my favourite of the families. No, I don't have a temper and I don't annihilate my enemies by training my dragons to incinerate them, but... I might. I just might.

Just call me Dani. Or Rhaegar. Not Viserys, please.

Date: 2007-09-02 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com
Hey, this means we're in the same family!

Which, apparently, means we should make out. Or something.

Date: 2007-09-02 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Either make out or kill each other. Possibly both. Possibly both at once. You never know with Targaryens.

Actually you never know with any of those families. I'm glad I wasn't a Lannister, but Tyrion was a Lannister and he was terrific. (Unless his putative father was right that he was a bastard, and not a Lannister at all.) I think every family has one good representative among all the rotten bastards and sadistic monsters....

Hmm. Maybe not House Frey. Were there any decent Freys?

Anyway, the Targaryens were at least beautiful and clever. Sanity not guaranteed.

Date: 2007-09-02 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com
Either make out or kill each other. Possibly both. Possibly both at once.

Yay! There's no sex like hatesex!

(I am reminded, now, of my Theory of why slash based on Shakespeare's history plays is so much fun, and it basically boils down to "for any given pairing, the odds that one of them will end up killing the other one eventually are extremely high." This says something about me and I am sure it is not good.)

...I need to actually read these books, clearly; someday I shall actually start on the huge huge pile of Things To Read When I Have Time For Leisure Reading...

Date: 2007-09-02 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yay! There's no sex like hatesex!

Clearly you are a true Targaryen.

"for any given pairing, the odds that one of them will end up killing the other one eventually are extremely high."

I pause to ponder the history plays... Yes. Definitely yes.

his says something about me and I am sure it is not good.

It confirms a certain Targaryen tendency within you. Though I suppose any of the SOIAF characters (or families) would fit the mould.

I need to actually read these books, clearly

Ah. Well. Yes. I loved the first three. The fourth was disappointing. I have great hopes for the fifth. What I like best is the way you can't - well, I can't - predict where the plots are going. There are some great larger-than-life scenarios. Like the humungous-high wall of ice at the north of the world, resmbling Hadrian's Wall, only colder and scarier and much, much bigger, which manned by the Night's Watch, who remind me of Templars, in a growly sort of way. The whole thing is remarkably big - the number of characters, themes and ideas is amazing.

There are ideas taken from the Wars of the Roses, but don't look for historical parallels: it's sheer fantasy. But the magic is interestingly rationalistic.

Don't read it when feeling depressed. Good things do not happen. Especially, good things do not happen to good characters. A large number of the characters are not good, but that doesn't help them any, either.

Date: 2007-09-02 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com
I pause to ponder the history plays... Yes. Definitely yes.

Sadly, nobody writes histories!slash except for [livejournal.com profile] commodorified and me. Well, and people who write Henry V/Scroope for Yuletide, but I don't care about that. Bah. Everybody likes the idea of Hal/Hotspur but nobody ever writes it.

It is all a great shame, as the histories, or at any rate the second tetralogy, CLEARLY run on mansex, or the repressed desire for it.

(I think it's because the names cause undue headaches. Except that wouldn't explain all the HV/Scroope Yuletide fics.)

Don't read it when feeling depressed.

...man, it'll take me a long time to get through it, then. Well. I actually rather enjoy reading grim stories about bad things happening to other people, when I am depressed, which is, again, probably indicative of my less-than-sterling mental health.

Date: 2007-09-02 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I now feel vaguely challenged to write Henry/Hotspur. If I think of an angle. Two good characters.

If you enjoy grim and nasty material when you're feeling down, well, then, "A Song of Ice and Fire" is just the thing for you,though it's by no means the grimmest and nastiest of the series. Hie you to your nearest library and pick up "A Game of Thrones" for a rousing good time. I had to put "A Clash of Kings" down for six months or so because it was getting me down, but six months later I was still intensely curious about what was going to happen, and read the rest, and enjoyed it thoroughly.

I'd probably be writing slash about these characters if only I could find someone among them to slash.

...

Date: 2007-09-02 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklebutch.livejournal.com


Your Score: House Lannister


54% Dominant, 45% Extroverted, 54% Trustworthy


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Confident. Dangerous. Unrelentingly sexy. The master of all you survey, you are of House Lannister.



You are a dominant personality—and how! When someone asks “and who are you, the proud lord said, that I should bow so low?” your response is probably, “FUCK YOU! I’m a fucking LANNISTER, that’s who the HELL I am!” And then you’d pimp-slap them with your golden hand. All joking aside, you view leadership as your natural, god-given right; it is a trait, just like your golden curling hair and irresistible sex appeal. It’s who you are—a Lannister.



You are introverted, meaning that you prefer to keep your ambitions and devices to yourself. Unfortunately, your personality is so vivacious that (despite all your intended secrecies) you are still a very obvious person. Though no one knows what avenues you will travel, your destination is clear to all. And of course, yours is a road to greatness! You have a magnetic, polarizing personality: people either love you or hate you. They also probably find you exceedingly intimidating. Their fear is probably well-placed.



Finally, you are trustworthy. Does this surprise you? Remember your unofficial motto: “A Lannister always pays his debts.” Though you enjoy keeping secrets and playing games, everyone knows you are a major player. Underhanded tactics are so expected from you that they don’t particularly count as untrustworthyness—it’s more of a family legacy than a choice. Your promise is as good as the gold that you shit.



Representative characters include: Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, and Tywin Lannister



Similar Houses: Greyjoy, Stark, and Targaryen



Opposite House: Tyrell



When playing the game of thrones, you play it balls to the wall.




Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Eeee! Well, at least the Lannisters are beautiful. Well... some of them. Tyrion (whom I adore) isn't. But Jaime and Cersei - gorgeous.

I wonder what the books have in store for Lannisters. I wonder if any will survive.

So. Roar away.

(Don't the Targaryens have a motto? I guess not - I don't recall one, and there isn't one with my quiz answer. Maybe their motto is "we're so aristocratic we don't need no fucking motto".

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklebutch.livejournal.com
Not my fandom - I was hoping you could tell me if it's good or bad ;)

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oh, in the George R.R. Martin books, it's all bad, when it isn't even worse than bad. There is at least one sympathetic character in each family - sometimes two, but if there's more than one, chances are that the other is going to be mutilated and tortured to death in darkest despair after betraying (or being betrayed by) their dearest and only love.

These are very good books but they aren't exactly cheerful.

Among the Lannisters, I love both Tyrion and Jaime. Tyrion is a dwarf. His brother Jaime is a beautiful, powerful knight motivated to child-murder by his incestuous passion for his power-hungry sister. (This isn't much of a spoiler, we learn this near the beginning of the first book. Jaime just gets more interesting as the story continues.)

Among the Targaryens, the whole family was wiped out but the only surviving offspring, Danaerys, owns the only remaining dragons in existence, and is busy conquering the world with an army of freed slaves. Her father Rhaegar, long dead, was rather glamorous, and had a mysterious past that is still mysterious and being revealed in tantalizingly tiny bits. His father was a raving pyromaniac who killed a lot of people, including the scion of House Stark, which caused the civil war that happened about fifteen years before the first book starts. (Not to be confused with the civil war that starts after the first book starts.)

House Stark started out looking good, as the patriarch, Eddard Stark, was honest and brave and true. If we had known before we started reading what kind of books these are, we would have realized how disastrous that was. Eddard Stark had a whole bunch of offspring, and a lot of the story is spent following their adventures and misadventures. One of the best and most sympathetic characters is Eddard's bastard son Jon Snow. Some of us think/hope that Jon and Danaerys will survive and eventually get together to found a new combined dynasty. There's a big mystery about who Jon's mother was.

The others? House Frey is creepy and squicky, total skin-crawling scum. I don't trust House Tully an inch, though one of them seems okay. House Greyjoy makes House Frey look good. House Baratheon is... uh, either drunk, deposed or extinct. Maybe all three. (I pause to consider which Baratheons, if any, are alive. Right. Depends how you compute some rather iffy parentage.) Maybe there'll be a comeback, though, there's a Baratheon bastard wandering around who still hasn't been murdered, despite a few death squads sent after him. I think he doesn't know who he really is.

There are a couple of other interesting Houses not represented on the quiz, like House Tyrell and House Martell of Dorne.

This is no doubt way, way more than you wanted to hear, but I can't help it, I'm a fan, and you gave me an opening.



Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com
Someone on my flist got Tyrell, actually. ;)

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
So Tyrell is there! Okay, I approve. House Tyrell is interesting.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklebutch.livejournal.com
Uh... sounds nice. Very, uh, soapy.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Soapy?

That surprises me. Yes, I guess, if you look at the storyline, it is sort of soapy, but it doesn't feel like that while you're reading. Maybe because there are a lot of points of view. Maybe because the settings are varied and important. Mostly because the style is very un-soapy. So things take you by surprise as you read.

I love that icon!

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklebutch.livejournal.com
Thanks :)

...If you look at the plot of most of my fave things, it looks soapy - Buffy looks like the soap from hell.

And it is. In some ways. But obviously, the quality and genre are completely different.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
the quality and genre are completely different.

Yes - which is the way I like things to be.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
On my car ride home from Stratford, my friends were listening to these books on audio tape and trying to explain the story to me. I was so cornfused and it didn't sound very cheery.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It probably wouldn't be confusing if you were reading it, rather than listening to it.

It is very complex.

It is not cheery at all. Things just get worse and worse. But in interesting ways. I wouldn't want to stop reading. Even though I didn't like the fourth book much - not nearly as much as the first three. My favourite characters were missing, and the story didn't seem to advance much.

The big problem with the series is that George R.R. Martin is writing it very, very slowly, and the more he writes, the longer it gets, so we begin to fear it will never ever be finished.



Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
I have wanted to read this for a while, but haven't gotten to it yet.

It was confusing because my friends were explaining several books to me (they were listening to the most recent one). I find it difficult to understand stories sometimes when people summarize them. hah.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I can imagine. Summarizing a story of that scope.... It would be like summarizing 45 years of X-Men while just looking at one issue. A Feast for Crows (the most recent book) would make it even more confusing, because a lot of the viewpoints and stories are of completely different settings than the other books, and characters who are central to the other books (like Jon Snow, Tyrion Lannister, and Dani) are completely missing.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Yes and they were telling me who had died and who's pov which chapter was from and I was like I'M NOT GOING TO REMEMBER ANY OF THIS SO JUST DRIVE. :)

I ignored it the whole way and thought about Eden.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
What a delightfully sane response!

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
I thought so! Inspired me to edit, at least. And kept the conversation to a minimal.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Editing is good. Editing is the most important thing in the world, in my opinion.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Yes, I totally agree, especially now that I'm doing it on such a massive scale.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I wish more writers were more careful about editing. This applies to everything from fanfic to J.K. Rowling and major works of non-fiction.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's very tough. There's something to inspired writing but also to reading it over and over like a reader would. The hardest part is finding things that don't work and having to work it out again. And continuation issues.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Aaargh. Sometimes I think there are no easy parts.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-02 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Whenever I get frustrated I just think about how pretty Eden is and let it pass, lmao.

It passes the time well.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I bet it does! It's a wonderful thing to have.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
I spent years doing just that during undergrad. I had no inspiration to write at the time, but I thought about the story constantly.

I always say, my goal isn't necessarily publication. It would be nice, but even if it wasn't with Eden, Eden is the story I will always obsess about in my mind. It will always be the story w/ the characters that live in my mind. Kind of like a past life I can't forget. Like real memories.

That's all I really want out of writing. A lot of non-writers don't understand that. For them, it's all about getting published.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
A lot of non-writers don't understand that. For them, it's all about getting published.

Yes. I get the same with fanfic. People who don't understand why I would do it if not for money. Or why I would value it, because they don't.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Indeed. I have no illusions about making a living as a writer. I will try to publish one day, but for the sake of being published. If not, I will continue to write for the love of it.

That's why I went into the library field. I can work and still have time to write. And of course, the resources.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The resources must be wonderful!

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
I have fond memories of the 15 books I once interloaned on Prince Rupert.

Re: ...

Date: 2007-09-03 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I can imagine!

Right now I'm researching someone so obscure I'm frustrated... but enjoying it anyway!

Hah! I LOVE Daenerys

Date: 2007-09-02 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idiotgrrl.livejournal.com


Your Score: House Stark


36% Dominant, 45% Extroverted, 81% Trustworthy


Image


Responsible. Respectable. Dour. That’s not shit coming out of your ass--it’s honor. You are clearly of House Stark.



You are a submissive personality, meaning that you are more than willing to relinquish control to someone more qualified; you will unflinchingly accept any responsibility that is thrust upon you, including servitude. Unfortunately for you, your unending patience and accommodating nature often make people look to you for a leader. In essence, you are the perfect leader: someone who has no desire to lead, yet is substantially well-qualified to do it.



You are also introverted, which means that people sometimes have difficulty understanding your thought process. Your dependable nature makes you predictable, but you’ve probably got all sorts of emotional dysfunctions when it comes to more intimate relationships. There are very few people whom you trust unwaveringly, and you’re not the type to confide in other people. So cold, so aloof--so Stark.



Finally, you are trustworthy--the very definition of the word. All secrets are safe with you. All of your vows are unbreakable. True to your name, you world is a stark place; there is black, and there is white. Your rigidity tends to undercut your overall value as a friend and ally. Honesty such as yours is hard to come by, which is easy to understand when you consider how easily manipulated you are by less decent individuals. Essentially, you’re the nice guy, and you’ll always finish last.



Representative characters include: Eddard Stark, Jon Snow, and Sansa Stark



Similar Houses: Frey, Lannister and Tully



Opposite House: Baratheon



When playing the game of thrones, you play it with one sword in your hand and another up your ass.




Re: Hah! I LOVE Daenerys

Date: 2007-09-02 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Way to go! Jon Snow is one of my favorite characters. Sansa Stark - not to much, but she has her moments. I liked Arya Stark a lot, at least up until "A Feast For Crows", in which she doesn't do much. I"m very curious about the fate of Bran and his companions.

Date: 2007-09-02 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com


Your Score: House Targaryen


72% Dominant, 54% Extroverted, 72% Trustworthy


Image


Ancient. Noble. Passionate to the point of insanity. Transcending lesser beings, you are of House Targaryen.



You are a dominant personality—in fact, you are the most dominant of all eight house types. You will not suffer yourself to be ignored. You will not suffer yourself to be ruled. The phrase "I will not suffer myself to _____!" was practically made for you. You are willful, arrogant, and exceedingly dangerous to screw with. With a temper like yours, anyone stupid enough to saunter into your line of fire won’t soon forget their mistake.



You are also extroverted, which means that everyone in the world knows exactly what your intentions are. Unlike your cohorts (who hide behind smiles and courtesies and court politics), you think of it as your birthright to come riding in on an enormous dragon, breathing fire and fucking your siblings. Hey, what you lack in subtlty, you make up in style!



Finally, you are trustworthy. Your absurd amounts of power and borderline psychosis are not used unjustly. Unlike many, your general aims are just and true. You we bred for rule, and the fact that you cannot rest until you are doing so is not your fault. If you make up your mind, it becomes reality. Never one for empty threats or vainglorious lies, you can only speak the truth. And the truth is "fire and blood."



Representative characters include: Daenerys Stormborn, Rhaegar Targaryen, and Viserys Targaryen



Similar Houses: Baratheon, Lannister,and Tully



Opposite House: Frey



When playing the game of thrones, you play it to the death.






But what does it all mean? lol. Is this a G.R.R. Martin thing?

Date: 2007-09-02 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, this is a George R.R. Martin thing.

In his world, the land of Westeros is ruled by a group of powerful men, each of them powerful lords of noble Houses. Picture the situation of England at the time of the Wars of the Roses, with powerful families fighting to sort of who would be king. Add a complex history, a large number of powerful and ambitious Houses, and an exiled royal dynasty eager to return and regain power.

Many of the main characters are of House Stark. House Targaryen is the House of the exiled and murdered former king (who was an insane and murderous pyromaniac). His son and his son's family are intriguing characters, though they have been dead for some time, and one of the most interesting characters in the book is the last living Targaryen, a girl named Dani, who is busy conquering the world with an army of slaves, exiles, and dragons. But she hasn't got to Westeros yet.

Date: 2007-09-02 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Yes, the only bit I really understood was when they compared it to the War of Roses.

Date: 2007-09-02 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes. House Lannister vs. House Stark. That's the central core of the plot.

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