The National Library of Canada...
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I spent most of the afternoon doing research in the National Library of Canada. I've been there before, but not for many years. I used to go when I was an undergraduate at Carleton University, and I remember they made me jump through hoops to get the authorization to go in. I was left thinking it was an elitist place that probably wouldn't let me in.
But, encouraged yesterday by
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I knew the National Library had a copy, because I'd got it once on Interlibrary Loan through the Public Library. (But they wouldn't let me take it home. The nerve.) When I asked for it this morning the library expressed doubt. "We don't usually handle that kind of material," she said. "We're mandated to carry Canadian history, you know." I couldn't tell whether she was dissing my unpatriotic study of European history, or apologizing for the library's insufficiencies. I refrained from saying, "How chauvinistic of you." They did, of course, have the book.
Because it is fragile, I had to read it in room 25, wearing white gloves (which they provided), and use of pens is not allowed. Luckily, I'd put a good pencil into my bag this morning, somewhat by accident rather than good planning.
I luxuriated in the place. I'm used to the Ottawa Public Library - a good place, don't get me wrong, but it's crowded with books and people and the air conditioning seldom seems quite right and the librarians are always busy. In the National Library, there is a hush. The air conditioning is perfect - and that's important, since it was (
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I loved it. I worked until my eyes started to blur and my brain balked at understanding Anglo-Norman and the muscles of my pencil-wielding hand started to ache.
The good part? My card is valid for a whole year.
Makes me feel, if only temporarily, like the real scholar I want to be.
I took some pictures when I was leaving, just for the fun of it.
First,

Besides being a lovely statue, it has a delightful history.


with the entrance to the National Library to the left of the picture.
The person sitting on the bench is real, not part of the sculpture - she was waiting for someone to pick her up.
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Date: 2007-08-03 01:11 am (UTC)Huh, I just realized that my thesis was on medieval fandom! Once I found out that right after the Chanson de Roland, the most popular boy's names were Roland and Oliver, I was on a roll. My thesis was on the feedback loop between secular literature and secular culture, esp. including William Marshall and Le Chevalier de la Charette (Chretien's Lancelot). William's life imitated art and the stories imitated his life...
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Date: 2007-08-03 02:17 am (UTC)I love that book!
Egad, so do I! And you're the first other person I've met who has read it, though I've known people who have read parts of it. (And may have read the whole thing since I last discussed it with them, I don't know.) Yes, I was able to take it out from the library of King's College when I was studying there - that was wonderful. Much easier there than here.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a senior thesis? Is that a thesis you have to write to get a B.A.? Or does it mean something else? I thought 'senior' meant last year of high school in the U.S., but I would be surprised if they had you writing about an Anglo-Norman biographical poem in high school.
Once I found out that right after the Chanson de Roland, the most popular boy's names were Roland and Oliver, I was on a roll.
How wonderful! I believe I knew that already - an idea of infinite pleasure. I remember once noticing young males in northern Italy in the 14th century with names like "Arturo" and "Pandragone" because of the popularity of the Arthurian legends. I love it when that happens! Or even just tracing the history of names... the man I am researching, Aimery de Lusignan, was the son of a woman named Burgundia... and then he named his daughter Burgundia. It's such fun to see patterns like that.
I wonder if, in the mid-9th century or whenever it was, there were suddenly a bunch of kids named Beowulf and Grendel?
My thesis was on the feedback loop between secular literature and secular culture
Oh wow. It might be presumptuous of me to ask this, but may I read your thesis? It sounds fascinating. Was this in history or literature or both?
Chretien's Lancelot
I have never read Chretien and I really believe I should. He's smack in the middle of my time and consorted with people I am working on. I should read it soon. I am currently rereading the Lais of Marie de France.
William's life imitated art
It certainly did! He was practically sans peur et sans reproche, and made into the model of the preux chevalier. He's all the more endearing (I think) because sometimes his personal non-typical point of view appears in the text, or his sense of humour. I do like William - even though I've just been reading about him bitterly fighting the guys I'm researching. Have you read the book Georges Duby wrote about him?
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Date: 2007-08-03 08:33 pm (UTC)Oh, how cool!
Is there an edition you'd recommend? is the paperback in English or French?
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Date: 2007-08-03 08:57 pm (UTC)Helen's comments on Perceval are here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nigel.nicholson/hn/CrusadeFAQs/T_and_G feed.html): she talks about the political allegory in the Grail legends.
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Date: 2007-08-04 01:48 pm (UTC)It just appalls me how Conrad has been treated in particular.
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Date: 2007-08-03 01:27 am (UTC)The white cotton gloves... gad, to be able to handle a book that actually needs this, such a joy it must have been. Think of all the other hands that have held it. The ones who read it... what colors were their eyes?
I smile. I love such stuff.
I gently disagree with your caption: the person sitting on the bench is real, but she is not "not part of the sculpture," mia kara -- as soon as she sat, she became part of the sculpture. Was that not part of the entire intention of the art? hm
Hearing about being inside a wonderful library on a steaming-hot day was as refreshing for me, I think, as it must have been for you to have been there.
By the way: do you know that your digital camera can take pictures of the book's pages? There is a setting it has (I assume this; maybe it does not have it) called "macro." Macro allows you to hold the lens closer than usual without getting you any distortion. Think about it. Leaves from the book as screensavers....
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Date: 2007-08-03 02:01 am (UTC)It isn't fragile because it's been read a lot, but because it's old and paper gets brittle and the glue in bindings falls apart.
I don't know what colours the eyes of the other readers were, but I'd love to know the eye colour of the Lusignan brothers I am researching.
Well, yes, she was part of the sculpture but not a part the artist put there. I was myself part of the sculpture when I sat there, a little while later.
My camera lacks settings. My camera is an ignoramus of the camera world, which is what happens when you buy the cheapest model Costco has. One day, when I have a little money, I will get a better camera. I did fantasize a little about having the ability to do that. Some day, maybe!
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Date: 2007-08-08 01:23 am (UTC)Indeed. I love the very image of such a thing.
My campus library has a book sale every spring; last year, for one dollar, I bought an unabridged Webster's dictionary, 1960 ... which I recognized as the dictionary that had sat on the pedestel in the main library hall 25 years ago, when I was an undergraduate here. O, the thoguhts it brought to mind!
Well, yes, she was part of the sculpture but not a part the artist put there. I was myself part of the sculpture when I sat there, a little while later.
Hmmm... performance art. Think of a video camera trained on this bench all day. (If people can sell eight-hour videos of a fishbowl, well...!)
My camera lacks settings... One day, when I have a little money, I will get a better camera...
Costco, hm? What I have here that compares -- Best Buy. What would you say to a Canon 5-pixel with zoom lens and settings, for $180 US? I know, still a lot of money. Want me to look into it for you? Remember the Wolverine phone: there could be a great deal out there somewhere, eh?
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Date: 2007-08-08 01:26 am (UTC)I'm not going to buy a camera at any price until I've paid off all my debts!
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Date: 2007-08-08 01:31 am (UTC)Back in the early 1990s, I somehow ran across a program (I think it was on one of the transponders on one of Canada's two ANIK television satellites) showing odd stuff from local cable-TV channels around the world. One from Germany had a film clip for insomniacs, which played all night long: it was a handful of actors dressed up to look like sheep, playing leap-frog with each other from left to right across the screen... nonstop... and it was strangely addictive....
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Date: 2007-08-03 03:14 pm (UTC)For Anglo-Norman/Old French, I use The Anglo-Norman On-Line Hub (http://www.anglo-norman.net/), which has a dictionary for look-ups.
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Date: 2007-08-03 08:39 pm (UTC)Thank you for the Anglo-Norman dictionary link! It looks like exactly what I need for those times I either can't guess a word, or misinterpret enough to find that three or four lines of the verse are opaque, and I'm left thinking, "What are they doing? and why?"
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Date: 2007-08-03 01:11 pm (UTC)In any case, the world of the scholar still tempts me.
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Date: 2007-08-03 01:17 pm (UTC)But as for the path not traveled, I hope the path you did do brought it's own pleasures with it?
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Date: 2007-08-03 01:22 pm (UTC)Yeah. I managed that one, though I had to delay it by six months due to illness. Frustrating, especially when I look back. At the time it was a matter of taking one day at a time; but I think now, that on recovery, I should have done everything I could to get back into a doctoral programme. I suppose the question is: if I feel that way, what's stopping me now? Answer: money. The sense that I've been away from it for too long. Sheer funk.
I hope the path you did do brought it's own pleasures with it?
Oh, yes, it's been fun working in theatre, and I'm not really complaining about my life. It isn't what I would have chosen ideally, but it's been fun, certainly, with good friends and lots of stimulating ideas to play with. Not to mention having history books to read. But if anyone seems suited by temperament and interest to be an academic, it's me. I was once proud of my undersanding of the 12th century. Now I have... less to be proud of.
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