Torchwood and other TV shows....
Sep. 8th, 2008 11:39 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
This New York Times article about current TV shows is fun. I went to it for the Torchwood mention - which is a big spoiler if you haven't seen the end of series 2 yet, and most Canadians haven't.
I was amused by their easy acceptance of slash:
HOUSE (Fox, Sept. 16) Will prime time’s most unhealthy, obsessive love affair — the one between Dr. House (Hugh Laurie) and Dr. Wilson (Robert Sean Leonard) — survive the fact that House was instrumental in Wilson’s girlfriend’s death? Early episodes are inconclusive, but we all know that they’ll patch things up somehow.
I don't like the comments on Heroes at all. Sounds like more new characters (faugh) and focus on the old characters I didn't like (Maya). Ah well: gives me an excuse not to watch, when I don't have time anyway. Who am I kidding? Of course I'll watch, initially at least, if only to see how Nathan Petrelli survives - and because I want to see Peter Petrelli again.
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Date: 2008-09-09 03:47 am (UTC)Thank you, so very much, for slapping me in the face with a huge House spoiler I had not previously encountered when I'm a season behind. *headdesk*
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Date: 2008-09-09 04:02 am (UTC)It foolishly doesn't generally occur to me that people on my flist actually watch House still. But of course they do. For all I know I might be the only person who doesn't.
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Date: 2008-09-09 04:18 pm (UTC)Yes, I love the easy acceptance of slash, too. Has the cultural zeitgeist changed w/o us quite realizing it?
BTW, I watch House (Sept. 16 is already in my day book) and I'm curious how they will resolve this one (regardless of my unhappiness with some of S4, particular the way the ending was shaped).
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Date: 2008-09-09 04:45 pm (UTC)Ususally the case.
Has the cultural zeitgeist changed w/o us quite realizing it?
Since I first got into slash in the late 1970s, the difference is amazing. It was all very covert; even at conventions where slash was sold it was treated as something different, outside other fandoms. Unless you knew people who knew people who produced zines, you couldn't get them. Actors often resented it (if they knew about it) and slash fandom was a culture of secrecy. Now we have canonical slash, actors who slash themselves in interviews, and jokes about it in the New York Times.
It's much more comfortable world.
I knew you watched House, and I think lunacy-gal does, too.
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Date: 2008-09-09 04:06 am (UTC)I watch House, too, but here in the States they've been showing teasers for the season premiere for weeks. So you didn't spoil anything for me,
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Date: 2008-09-09 12:54 pm (UTC)On the other hand, the order in which you watch the episodes of Torchwood really doesn't matter all that much. Each is mostly self-contained in terms of plot.
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Date: 2008-09-09 06:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-09 11:11 am (UTC)When does the new season air? I have a
I will be watching - I thought S2 was terribly weak in comparison to S1 and S3 will slide further no doubt, but the writerly claim is that the series as a whole will work cohesively (in a novelesque way) once all the seasons have played out and, though I don't believe them I'm curious to see them try to pull it off.
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Date: 2008-09-09 11:36 am (UTC)And... sigh... this is just what I don't want to see. I was looking forward to the season till I started hearing this sort of thing.
I think the new season begins Sept. 22. Yes, Sept. 22 (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/).
though I don't believe them I'm curious to see them try to pull it off.
Part of me feels that way, and is curious. And there are enough characters I care about - Petrellis and Bennets - that I want to see them. On the other hand, I don't want to see them villainized or ruined, and the rest of it - Mohinder and Maya, the return of Sylar, even if he turns good - is really stuff I don't want to see.
Yes, of course I will watch, at least for a few weeks. I live in hope. I know how foolish it is to judge a show before it even airs.
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Date: 2008-09-09 02:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-09 02:49 pm (UTC)My point being: it isn't that the Bennets are intrinsically more interesting than everyone else in the show, it's that they were made more interesting. No accident.
I like the idea of having a lot of super-powered characters, some transitory, but I think we need a core group to focus on and care about. I find it hard to care about Maya.
Latest Heroes Graphic Novel
Date: 2008-09-09 02:20 pm (UTC)http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_display.shtml?novel=102
Re: Latest Heroes Graphic Novel
Date: 2008-09-09 02:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-09 04:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-09 04:48 pm (UTC)In first season, the writing was very good, and I think it was less violent. In season 2... I lost faith, to a certain extent, while still retaining love of some of the characters. Matt, for example, whom I liked at first, I'd come to hate, and then I liked him again.
I was very disappointed by Elle, the character played by Kirstin Bell, who was formerly Veronica Mars. Beautiful, talented, and wasted on a bimbette role.
Torchwood: Lost Souls
Date: 2008-09-10 02:19 pm (UTC)http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/torchwood.shtml
Re: Torchwood: Lost Souls
Date: 2008-09-16 02:09 pm (UTC)Latest Heroes Graphic Novel & More
Date: 2008-09-16 02:06 pm (UTC)http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_display.shtml?novel=103
Coleman has a blog:
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/Jack_Coleman/
So does director Greg Beeman:
http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/
Re: Latest Heroes Graphic Novel & More
Date: 2008-09-16 02:09 pm (UTC)Re: Latest Heroes Graphic Novel & More
Date: 2008-09-23 01:39 pm (UTC)http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_display.shtml?novel=104
Both the blogs I gave you above have been updated.
Re: Latest Heroes Graphic Novel & More
Date: 2008-09-23 07:48 pm (UTC)