Yes. I hope I can manage to get it right. It's there in my head, but only in bits and pieces, weaving themselves slowly together.
Even Jack/Rose is so unconventional and interesting.
Yes. They too are a study in contrasts, but so compatible. I love the way they tease each other and understand each other so well.
a Doctor/Jack/Rose story should be massive, in my opinion.
There's so much there. Easy to treat it as just sex, and could and might write PWPs about them, but the real point, the real challenge is to sort out the feelings and psychology of these three very different, very archetypal heroes to meld them into a true love story.
Massive with all sorts of actions and interactions
And levels of awareness and revelation....
Maybe our fanfic ambitions should be bigger on the inside, too...
I think that's true. It's easy to fall into patterns of 'short and simple', hard to bring it to the next step, and beyond. Creative challenge! That is the key.
I don't mean to imply that short things can't be powerful and deep. But usually they aren't.
Anyway, my fanfic ambitions seem to be so massive they mostly haven't happened yet...!
Yes, the new Who is very much about the interactions and psychologies between Doctor and his companions. So we can't just ignore these in fanfic writing. Fanfic writing is still based on the original materials. And every fandom is different. Different standards, different patterns. The same is about the ideal length of fanfics...I believe so. There're short and poignant pieces of writing, and there're fandoms where only short things work, like...HBO's 'Entourage'? As a whole, I'd say the fanfics of action films/TV-series/books need more of a plot and a greater length to pull off, like DW. Fanfic of a show about everyday life, like 'House', don't have to be massive. Everyday life is about fractions, scraps and patches.
Speaking in very general terms, I'd say theme of Doctor Who series one was the Doctor's relationship with himself - coming to engage with life again after the Time War. The theme of series two was the Doctor coming to terms with his love for Rose. Each series had a huge cosmic scope, playing the theme in various ways in each episode.
I find that Torchwood fan writing has so far taking an unusually narrow scope - using the Hub as the setting, not doing much in the way of massive AUs or potentialities, but sticking close to the characters and events we see. Being introspective rather than speculative. This is neither good nor bad, just an interesting way for it to have gone.
Well, I think a narrow scope is natural for Torchwood. We still know so little about Torchwood itself and about the main characters. It's not enough for the AU kind of imagination... And like I said in another comment, the hub, as a basement, has a claustrophobic, prison-like feel. The hub is one of the most impressive and definitive things in Torchwood. It kind of influences our scope, I guess.
We still know so little about Torchwood itself and about the main characters.
More's the pity, but it whets the curiosity.
the hub, as a basement, has a claustrophobic, prison-like feel. </i.
And that wonderful contrast between the old and the new, the shabby and the spiffy, the old-fashioned and the high-tech, light and dark, familiarity and mystery.... I love the way it has so many rooms and tunnels and levels, we don't even know how many, it just stretches out under Cardiff... but the tunnels don't actually lead anywhere except to dark recesses of the imagination. They all love working there and treat is as a home (all but Gwen, who has a 'real' home, because of Rhys), but there's something threatening and scary about it.
Yes, both at once. And while the TARDIS travels in space and time, the Hub is static in space and time, but space and time fit around it... moving with the occasional temporal shift.
I like to think of the SUV as a sort of miniature mobile tendril of the Hub that reaches out when they go on a road trip, always in communication with the home base.
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-02-28 06:48 pm (UTC)Merci!
OP3 can be fantastic in the right hands.
Yes. I hope I can manage to get it right. It's there in my head, but only in bits and pieces, weaving themselves slowly together.
Even Jack/Rose is so unconventional and interesting.
Yes. They too are a study in contrasts, but so compatible. I love the way they tease each other and understand each other so well.
a Doctor/Jack/Rose story should be massive, in my opinion.
There's so much there. Easy to treat it as just sex, and could and might write PWPs about them, but the real point, the real challenge is to sort out the feelings and psychology of these three very different, very archetypal heroes to meld them into a true love story.
Massive with all sorts of actions and interactions
And levels of awareness and revelation....
Maybe our fanfic ambitions should be bigger on the inside, too...
I think that's true. It's easy to fall into patterns of 'short and simple', hard to bring it to the next step, and beyond. Creative challenge! That is the key.
I don't mean to imply that short things can't be powerful and deep. But usually they aren't.
Anyway, my fanfic ambitions seem to be so massive they mostly haven't happened yet...!
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-02-28 07:37 pm (UTC)Fanfic writing is still based on the original materials. And every fandom is different. Different standards, different patterns. The same is about the ideal length of fanfics...I believe so. There're short and poignant pieces of writing, and there're fandoms where only short things work, like...HBO's 'Entourage'? As a whole, I'd say the fanfics of action films/TV-series/books need more of a plot and a greater length to pull off, like DW. Fanfic of a show about everyday life, like 'House', don't have to be massive. Everyday life is about fractions, scraps and patches.
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-02-28 07:57 pm (UTC)I find that Torchwood fan writing has so far taking an unusually narrow scope - using the Hub as the setting, not doing much in the way of massive AUs or potentialities, but sticking close to the characters and events we see. Being introspective rather than speculative. This is neither good nor bad, just an interesting way for it to have gone.
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-03-01 02:33 am (UTC)And like I said in another comment, the hub, as a basement, has a claustrophobic, prison-like feel. The hub is one of the most impressive and definitive things in Torchwood. It kind of influences our scope, I guess.
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-03-01 04:03 am (UTC)More's the pity, but it whets the curiosity.
the hub, as a basement, has a claustrophobic, prison-like feel. </i. And that wonderful contrast between the old and the new, the shabby and the spiffy, the old-fashioned and the high-tech, light and dark, familiarity and mystery.... I love the way it has so many rooms and tunnels and levels, we don't even know how many, it just stretches out under Cardiff... but the tunnels don't actually lead anywhere except to dark recesses of the imagination. They all love working there and treat is as a home (all but Gwen, who has a 'real' home, because of Rhys), but there's something threatening and scary about it.
Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-03-01 05:06 am (UTC)Re: Part 2
Date: 2007-03-01 05:37 am (UTC)I like to think of the SUV as a sort of miniature mobile tendril of the Hub that reaches out when they go on a road trip, always in communication with the home base.