Mini-rant...

[fajrdrako]

I would be really, really happy if I never read another Jack/Ianto fic in which Jack asks Ianto to stop calling him 'sir'.

Please.

Comments

[ell-dee.livejournal.com]

Hahahahaha.

Yes!

Personally I would be happy if I never read another fic (any fandom, any pairing) written by a person who doesn't know the difference between they're, their and there.

[vervassal.livejournal.com]

Heee. *hugs*

[wijsgeer.livejournal.com]

Jack and Ianto playing pim pam pet (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim-pam-pet).
Jack spins the wheel, it is an S, the question on the card is "name a word to adress your lover."
Sir.

[cupati.livejournal.com]

Love your icon!

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Glad to hear you agree. It was fine the first time. Really!

And I agree about they're, their and there. I would ad its and it's - which isn't to say I don't make that mistake from time to time, but I don't let it survive the proofreading.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Yeah - !

[cupati.livejournal.com]

If a spelling mistake jumps out at me before I start reading a fic, I won't read it. If I've spotted one, it must be full of them.

I also have a thing against mispellings in titles.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Yes! I love it!

Just think of all the famous phrases Ianto can use:
- "Please, sir, I want some more."
- "To Sir, With Love"

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

And subject headings.

[cupati.livejournal.com]

Subject headings?

Re: Subject headings,,,

[cupati.livejournal.com]

Or if they mess the HTML up ;)

Does torch_wood work? I've always just put comms under user.

Re: Subject headings,,,

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Works either way, I think.

[ell-dee.livejournal.com]

Let's not forget your and you're.

And the word 'cum', which I rant about regularly.

I make the it's and its mistake, but that's why I have a beta.

I do agree, I think I might write the one where Jack insists on being called Sir and gets all pissy when Ianto forgets.

[reina-isabella.livejournal.com]

I'd have to agree - and I'll even cop to having it done it myself (actually, it was "captain," not "sir"), but I'm not particularly proud of it ...

I do love hearing the particular fic tropes that make people mental. For some reason, the buttons flying off when a shirt is ripped open drives me absolutely spare. Can't stand it.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

The problem with the button thing is that too many Jack/Ianto writers have used it... recently. Nothing is a cliche when it's just done once - but do it a dozen times and I groan to see it. I've read that several times in the last week alone. It might have been sexy the first time. The tenth time? Not so much.

The throw Ianto across Jack's desk for hot sex' scenario is running a little thin, too.

Each fandom seems to gather its own set of cliches.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Your and you're... eee. Particularly bad. Misplaced apostrophes in general.

Betas are worth their weight in gold and then some.

I think I might write the one where Jack insists on being called Sir and gets all pissy when Ianto forgets.

LOL - love it!

I like the ones where Ianto knows Jack gets a charge out of it when he calls him 'sir' and so he does it all the more. Just a bit of verbal/non-verbal teasing they're tossing back and forth.

[fandom-me.livejournal.com]

Amen.

I am actually terrified of the fan response I would get if I wrote Jack/Ianto. Because not only would Jack not object to being called sir, Jack would accept a blow-job and/or sex the same way he takes his coffee. Affectionate enough, definitely, enjoying it - absolutely and entirely - but matter-of-factly and taking it for granted.

...I'm a bad woman, and I have a knee jerk response.

[reina-isabella.livejournal.com]

The tenth time? Not so much.

Amen to that.

Each fandom seems to gather its own set of cliches.

Chicken-and-egg question: do they come about because writers are reading them in other people's work and they get subconsciously (well, or consciously) 'imprinted' and start popping up everywhere, I wonder?

Or is it something about the characters themselves that just makes everyone in the collective unconscious go, "Right! I really want to see them shag on Jack's desk with lots of buttons popping and Jack saying 'Don't call me sir!'?

[order_of_chaos]

Jack: Ianto, stop calling me 'sir'.
Ianto: *pouts* You don't love me!
Jack: ...?
Ianto: You're trying to change me. You're not supposed to want to change me - you're... you're supposed to love me forever and ever. That's why you came back, isn't it?
Jack: *sweatdrops* You know what? Never mind. I'll just fall through this handy interdimensional Rift and go shag Rose. Goodbye.
Ianto: Jack? JACK! COME BACK!

[trixtah.livejournal.com]

Word.

But, OMG, we can't imply that Ianto has a sub bone in his body, because their love is PURE and surpasses all notions of power.

[star-momma.livejournal.com]

hehe I don't even know the character yet (seen pics but that's about it), but I will say... what's not hot about some cute guy calling Jack sir? It just gets *hotter* the less professional their relationship gets :P

Random, unfounded thoughts... back to your regularly scheduled conversation!

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I am actually terrified of the fan response I would get if I wrote Jack/Ianto.

Evilly, this makes me wish you will do it.

Because not only would Jack not object to being called sir

Heh. I ask you: have we ever heard Jack object to Ianto calling him 'sir' in the episodes? under any circumstances? Not once.

Jack would accept a blow-job and/or sex the same way he takes his coffee.

What, hot and with milk?

...I'm a bad woman, and I have a knee jerk response.

I think I like your responses!

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Yes! Wonderful scenario! Good-bye, Jack!

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

we can't imply that Ianto has a sub bone in his body

Aww shucks. I wouldn't mind. Really!

because their love is PURE

Oh. I see. I might have missed that.

surpasses all notions of power.

This makes me think that a lot of writers are really, really missing some inventive and interesting ramifications of the relationships. Makes me want to play up the power/age differential. Makes me want to play head games with Ianto.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I don't even know the character yet

Took me a while to feel I got to know him, but he's really quite delightful. Not my favourite pairing for Jack, but one of the delightful things about Jack is that different pairings work. And Ianto, of course, is canon, though they tease us with their lack of detail.

what's not hot about some cute guy calling Jack sir?

Well, yes!!!!

It just gets *hotter* the less professional their relationship gets :P

Exactly. I think that makes it more fun.