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Nice evening, spent watching Torchwood with Donna and [livejournal.com profile] maaseru. This was Donna's last day at her current job; she quit. We talked about that for a while, then watched "Fragments" and "Exit Wounds", eating spaghetti, with raspberries, cake and whipped cream for dessert.

I wasn't too thrilled with "Exit Wounds" first time through, but every time I see it, I love it more.

Re: warning: BG spoilers may follow

Date: 2008-09-09 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I hated the religion on Deep Space Nine. I was so bored by it I stopped watching.

The Cardiff fountain - okay, you got me there!

I loved "By the Waters of Babylon" and even the first "Planet of the Apes", but the symbol-of-post-holocaust-wherever now feels like a cliché. Perhaps the problem is in transferring the concept (which I love) to the visual media like TV and movies.

I don't know where Six is, and it depends which Six we are talking about. Alas. I hope she's still in Baltar's head but we aren't seeing her.

Re: warning: BG spoilers may follow

Date: 2008-09-10 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
I hated the religion on Deep Space Nine. I was so bored by it I stopped watching.

Wow! It was a major keeping-point, for me. I want to write academic papers about it. The transformative journeys of Sisko and Kira were amazing and wonderful for me to vicariously experience. To each her own!

The Cardiff fountain -- hee.

Ah, I should have known that you would know "By the Waters of Babylon." (Then again, you have said more than once that you are not really into SF. Yet you are familiar with so many good early SF stories and books! I love the mystery that is you.) I first read it in an anthology when I was nine or ten. Then I ran into it in a junior-high English literature book that one of my softball teammates brought to practice one afternoon. I, um, think I helped her get an A on the test....

If Six is not still in Baltar's heard, I will be very upset with the producers. She needs to be there. All will be right with the world in the end if only she still resides in Baltar's head and whispers to him while someone else is talking.

I think that I ran into references that Caprica Six, who came back from the Base Star with Athena after she'd convinced Helo to shoot her so that she could be reborn over there and then grab their child and find a way to return to the Galactica... um, Caprica Six is now on Galactica, and did I see references to her being in a relationship with Tigh...?!!! Yuck.

I am totally tired of the Leoben model. I loathe his every moment of existence. And I am freaked out by Brother Cavil. The scenes played underneath Ellen Tigh were simply too much. Yuck. And what he did to the Chief was just evil. Screwing with his mind, when the Chief was there trying to get counseling for having beaten Cally so badly. (I know -- ancient history!)

Re: warning: BG spoilers may follow

Date: 2008-09-10 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It was a major keeping-point, for me.

I was so bored by it. Didn't enjoy the religious bits at all. Finally there was so much talk about religion I decided enough was enough. Even though I had a crush on Kira and on Bashir. So it goes. They weren't central enough to hold me.

But you are infinitely more tolerant of religion in fiction than I am.

"By the Waters of Babylon" was in one of the short story anthologies in one of my high school English classes. It was a regular Ontario schools text book - I don't think we ever actually studied that story, I don't remember. But of course I read the whole book. (It's the only story there that I remember, now.)

If Caprica Six had a relationship of any sort with Tigh, I missed it! (No wonder I am confused by the plot now.) I have now seen all the episodes to date.

Leoben hasn't been around much since he had Starbuck as his prisoner, though we saw him again at the end.

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