Nice evening, spent watching Torchwood with Donna and maaseru. This was Donna's last day at her current job; she quit. We talked about that for a while, then watched "Fragments" and "Exit Wounds", eating spaghetti, with raspberries, cake and whipped cream for dessert.
I wasn't too thrilled with "Exit Wounds" first time through, but every time I see it, I love it more.
BTW, I watched those first season episodes of Dr. Who with Captain Jack that you told me about, and I have to say I like the lighthearted, devil-may-care Captain Jack of Dr. Who much better than the Oh-So-Serious Captain Jack of Torchwood.
Is there more Captain Jack in Season Two of Dr. Who (I've seen the first four episodes and he's not in those)? I haven't quite made the connection between the Captain Jack of Season One and how he ended up heading up Torchwood yet.
And I've decided I like Christopher Eccleston after all. Not as much as I like David Tennant, but that's mostly because I tend to daydream about Tennant playing Miles while I'm watching him bounce around madly as the Doctor [g].
Well, ptui. I really would like to know what happened to Jack between when Rose brought him back to life in the last episode of Dr. Who Season 1 and when Torchwood began, if only to find out why he suddenly lost his sense of humor. I'm just now getting access to the DVDs of Season 2 of Torchwood via Netflix. And I want to finish Season 2 of Dr. Who first, and perhaps the rest of Season 1 (I've seen all of Season 1 of Torchwood via the CBC, which I get on my cable). I have got this whole mess so out of order it's amazing I'm not completely confused.
Yes, he's very Miles-like. One of the reasons I love him. Too bad he's too old for the part except perhaps for ACC or DI.
You know, I didn't realize that the Doctor's name wasn't Dr. Who (you know, like the Madeleine L'Engle character Mrs. Who), but just the Doctor until I saw the last couple of episodes. Verra strange. But at least I finally got the explanation for the police box...
I really would like to know what happened to Jack between when Rose brought him back to life in the last episode of Dr. Who Season 1 and when Torchwood began, if only to find out why he suddenly lost his sense of humor.
You will find out more about that. Mostly that a lot of really bad things happened to him. And his sense of humour comes back a but in series 2, though ... not conistently. (Inconsistency of characterization is IMHO the worst aspect of the show.)
I didn't realize that the Doctor's name wasn't Dr. Who (you know, like the Madeleine L'Engle character Mrs. Who), but just the Doctor until I saw the last couple of episodes.
I liked the discussions of that with Rose in "The Empty Child" where she said something like, "you don't have a name! Don't you ever get tired of 'Doctor'? Doctor who?" and the Doctor said, "Nine centuries in, I'm coping."
when (and in what episodes) do I find out this "more" thing you speak of?
I'll have to think about that. Hints and bits and pieces in different episodes. "Fragments" is one that deals with Jack's past in the 20th century somewhat.
do we ever find out why he's called The Doctor? As opposed, to, say, something else?
Not as far as I know. It's the name he gave himself.... I assumed it was because he likes to fix things, parallel to the Master, who wants to control others. Other Time Lords seem to have normal names. (Or sort of normal.)
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Date: 2008-09-07 02:27 am (UTC)Is there more Captain Jack in Season Two of Dr. Who (I've seen the first four episodes and he's not in those)? I haven't quite made the connection between the Captain Jack of Season One and how he ended up heading up Torchwood yet.
And I've decided I like Christopher Eccleston after all. Not as much as I like David Tennant, but that's mostly because I tend to daydream about Tennant playing Miles while I'm watching him bounce around madly as the Doctor [g].
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Date: 2008-09-07 02:29 am (UTC)So do I.
Is there more Captain Jack in Season Two of Dr. Who
No. He doesn't appear again until season 3.
I haven't quite made the connection between the Captain Jack of Season One and how he ended up heading up Torchwood yet.
We eventually learn how to fill in the gaps. But you've a way to go before you get to explanations - insofar as we've had them.
I've decided I like Christopher Eccleston after all.
Yay!
I tend to daydream about Tennant playing Miles while I'm watching him bounce around madly as the Doctor [g].
Yes, he's very Miles-like. One of the reasons I love him.
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Date: 2008-09-07 04:15 am (UTC)Yes, he's very Miles-like. One of the reasons I love him. Too bad he's too old for the part except perhaps for ACC or DI.
You know, I didn't realize that the Doctor's name wasn't Dr. Who (you know, like the Madeleine L'Engle character Mrs. Who), but just the Doctor until I saw the last couple of episodes. Verra strange. But at least I finally got the explanation for the police box...
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Date: 2008-09-07 09:50 am (UTC)You will find out more about that. Mostly that a lot of really bad things happened to him. And his sense of humour comes back a but in series 2, though ... not conistently. (Inconsistency of characterization is IMHO the worst aspect of the show.)
I didn't realize that the Doctor's name wasn't Dr. Who (you know, like the Madeleine L'Engle character Mrs. Who), but just the Doctor until I saw the last couple of episodes.
I liked the discussions of that with Rose in "The Empty Child" where she said something like, "you don't have a name! Don't you ever get tired of 'Doctor'? Doctor who?" and the Doctor said, "Nine centuries in, I'm coping."
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Date: 2008-09-07 05:17 pm (UTC)"The Empty Child" discussion was exactly what I was talking about. It gave me the giggles.
BTW, do we ever find out why he's called The Doctor? As opposed, to, say, something else?
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Date: 2008-09-08 11:10 am (UTC)I'll have to think about that. Hints and bits and pieces in different episodes. "Fragments" is one that deals with Jack's past in the 20th century somewhat.
do we ever find out why he's called The Doctor? As opposed, to, say, something else?
Not as far as I know. It's the name he gave himself.... I assumed it was because he likes to fix things, parallel to the Master, who wants to control others. Other Time Lords seem to have normal names. (Or sort of normal.)
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Date: 2008-09-09 12:02 am (UTC)I assumed it was because he likes to fix things, parallel to the Master, who wants to control others.
Huh. I hadn't thought of it that way.
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