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I just read the list of the top 100 Hot Guys from afterelton.com, and am of course pleased to see John Barrowman in the #2 spot. Right behind Jake Gyllenhall, by a narrow margin, which shows good taste on the voters' part. And John's cheeky comment: "I’m thrilled with the results. Who wouldn’t want to come in behind Jake Gyllenhaal?" Point. I've heard him say before how he finds Gyllenhall really sexy. Well. Who wouldn't?

And love the quote from Gareth David-Lloyd, who was #6: "I understand I'm underneath John Barrowman, which seems to happen quite a lot. Maybe, next year, Ianto can be on top." I suspect David-Lloyd is taking Barrowman lessons in smart-ass sexiness. Bad influence, in the nicest way. And even better:
How does David-Lloyd feel about being one half of television’s most visible same-sex couples? In our interview with him he explained, "I’m one of these people of that age where it’s just not an issue, and it never has been." Now that's sexy.
Indeed. Though I don't think it's a matter of age; it's a matter of temperament.

As with most such lists, I hadn't heard of a lot of the people featured, and a fair number I find most unattractive. But the others - well. Aside from Barrowman and Gyllenhall, I would put on my own list Clive Owen (who is #71), Gerard Butler #41, Johnny Depp #40, Milo Ventimiglia #38, Jonathan Rhys Meyers #36, David Tennant #33, Daniel Craig #16 and David Beckham #12, on my list. And I might add, that's a mighty fine picture of Jamie Bamber in a towel at #35. And good to see Chad Allen as #56.

On a hunch that afterellen.com might have posted their new 2008 list too - and they have - I am happy to see Sarah Shahi at #7, Lena Headey #10, Keira Knightley at #31 (though I wouldn't know her from this picture), Katee Sachoff #33, Kate Beckinsale #40, Alyson Hannigan #59, Kristen Bell #71, and Grace Park #90 (though I'd put her at #2). Some of the others I don't like, but most of them I've simply never seen.

I wonder why afterelton.com counted down from #100 and afterellen.com counted up from #1. Is there some deep gender-differentiation dichotomy there? (I wish I knew a similar site for bi people - is there one?)

Sometimes I think some of my posts need a "shallowness" warning. But what's wrong with liking to look at beautiful people?

Date: 2008-06-02 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
Oh Gareth. Oh John. Never change. :-D

I wish Gareth's agent would get on him for new publicity shots, but since Gareth's agent can't be arsed to add TW to his resume, I suppose that's asking a lot.

Gareth: if you're listening: SORT IT OUT.


what's wrong with liking to look at beautiful people

I had that argument repeatedly with an old boyfriend. *sigh*

Date: 2008-06-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oh Gareth. Oh John. Never change.

Yes! How I hope they never do.

I wish Gareth's agent would get on him for new publicity shots

Yes. I'd say the situation was reaching emergency proportions. It isn't as if he isn't photogenic. C'mon, guys, get with it!

I had that argument repeatedly with an old boyfriend.

Beauty is where we find it, and I find it often undervalued in our world.

Date: 2008-06-02 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
Gareth should be doing so much more in his breaks from filming TW. He says he wants to, so the only holdups I can think of are

1. lazy agent.
2. lazy Gareth.
3. he really just wants to dork around with the band.
4. contractual restraints: have any of the others (besides John) done anything else while Torchwooding? I can't think of anything.

But he's at a point where he's got to work his pert little ass off to be noticed, to get to the next level. For purely selfish reasons I want to see him get out there and Go Fight Win.

Date: 2008-06-02 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
1. lazy agent.
2. lazy Gareth.


Either is possible. Maybe he really wants a rest. Can't expect everyone to have the energy of a Barrowman.

contractual restraints: have any of the others (besides John) done anything else while Torchwooding? I can't think of anything.

Audiobooks. Burn Gorman has been in six things besides Torchwood in 2007. Naoko Mori hasn't been in anything else since Torchwood started; ditto Eve Myles, I think, though she has something listed for 2008 - a role in Little Dorrit. Oh dear! I'll want to see that, but it's the only Dickens novel I've never read - there will be spoilers. Shall I read it first? Or go for movie-type spoilers about the plot? Decisions, decisions.

Anyway, I don't think there are contractual restraints, once Torchwood duties are done.

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Date: 2008-06-02 05:39 pm (UTC)
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P.S. I forgot to add that Gareth is doing conventions, which really makes me want to go to Polaris in Toronto. If I can. Maybe he just wants to do a 'schmooze with the fans' sort of thing for a while.

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Date: 2008-06-02 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfinessy.livejournal.com
Nice pick of Orlando Bloom they've got there - weird pic of Shia LaBeouf (sp!), Jared looking particularly gorgeous and sweet, lovely photo of Johnny Depp, Milo has inny nipples! GORGEOUS pick of Christian Bale - seriously the first time I've thought he was remotely sexy... wow! Cute pic of GDL and his comment is wonderful :-) Gale Harold looking smouldering, although I don't like the pic - he's definitely looked sexier.

Date: 2008-06-02 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Nice pick of Orlando Bloom they've got there

Yes, I like it.

weird pic of Shia LaBeouf

Very strange.

lovely photo of Johnny Depp

Definitely!

Christian Bale - seriously the first time I've thought he was remotely sexy... wow!

He is maturing well.

Nice set, isn't it?

TW S3 News

Date: 2008-06-02 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raissad.livejournal.com
Speaking Of Torchwood, here's the latest news (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Torchwood-Season-3/800040744). I'll reserve judgement until I see it.

Re: TW S3 News

Date: 2008-06-02 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I think this is good news. It's more Torchwood, and it's got Captain Jack, and my problem with the show - well, one of my problems with the show - to date has been that the writing is variable and inconsistent. A single story arc should solve that problem.

And if they do another miniseries - all the better.

What I hope for is quality writing and concept, so a lot depends on who the writers are.

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Date: 2008-06-02 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raissad.livejournal.com
A single story arc should solve that problem.

That's what I'm hoping, too.

Re: TW S3 News

Date: 2008-06-03 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Fingers crossed!

Date: 2008-06-02 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com
Sometimes I think some of my posts need a "shallowness" warning. But what's wrong with liking to look at beautiful people?

There's NOTHING wrong with it. Studies have proved that it's very good for the brain. Plus posting the links is a service to humanity. Mental health and civic mindedness! That's what slobbering over beauty is for.

Date: 2008-06-02 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Studies have proved that it's very good for the brain.

Excellent! When my brain is happy, I am happy.

Plus posting the links is a service to humanity.

Yes, of course. Being a humanitarian is important.

That's what slobbering over beauty is for.

And just the sheer fun of it.

Polite Notice: Slavering Will Now Ensue

Date: 2008-06-02 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
Sometimes I think some of my posts need a "shallowness" warning.

You're welcome.

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Date: 2008-06-02 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Hee! Gorgeous, aren't they?

And your own Lucy Lawless is on the afterellen.com list.

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Date: 2008-06-05 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
I didn't see the entire list yet; the computer I was using that day is incredibly slow. But... mmm, lovely and tasty Katee Sackoff photo.

Lucy Lawless. Talk about repeatedly re-inventing yourself. I think she's marvelous.

Okay, which episode does she have the threesome with Baltar and Six...? I may finish my day-of-caution by sitting in front of Battlestar Galactica for a few hours while my chicken soup cooks... which I will start it doing as soon as I get home.

Was it hot and humid in Ottawa today? Thursday? It was near 90 today. Ugh. So much cooler inside my house than outside! I love the thick walls this old farmhouse has.

Date: 2008-06-02 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
I love the very idea of Gareth David-Lloyd responding to his inclusion on this list with such delightful insouciance. Indeed, there are now more and more "People of that age where it's just not an issue"!

I just watched Buffy episode -- shoot, title escapes me. Ah: "Earshot," in which she can hear people's thoughts. As she is incapacitated and the Scooby Gang try to find the intending-killer, Xander talks to Larry and a most delightful thing happens: Larry sits there in the cafeteria and says, "What? I'm gay and I'm out, and it's great. I'm so out, my grandma is hooking me up with guys!" I so enjoyed that little scene.

Okay, I take issue with the afterellen list, if Sarah Shahi isn't higher than 7! Ditto Katee Sackoff and Grace Park so low, what were they thinking? [g] It all comes down to individual preferences, eh? But there are some few commonalities to what makes a person sexy, or at least I hope there are: poise, self-awareness, that sort of thing. Without that, nobody who's physically gorgeous is, to me, even remotely attractive.

I wonder why afterelton.com counted down from #100 and afterellen.com counted up from #1. Is there some deep gender-differentiation dichotomy there?

Ask Simon Baron-Cohen, he'd say yes. He's the autism expert in Britain who thinks that autistic people have a "male brain." Right. I think he's full of ... uh, nonsense (see, cleaner language! I'm trying!). Myself, I never understand (and I mean that in the intrinsic sense, as in: I literally can't understand, it makes no sense to me at a basic level) the "order of importance" ranking at all, whether it is from high to low number or from low to high. There is some component to it that escapes me. That's part of my autistic brain. It's not male -- it's simply not neurotypical. It's not the "opposite pole of a binary," it's different altogether. Sorry, I'll shut up now.

All that to say, I like seeing all the sexy people, but I don't see any point in saying one is "above" or "below" any others, except for how well it plays in double entendres! hee

(I wish I knew a similar site for bi people - is there one?)

You have time on your hands these days. Start one!

Date: 2008-06-03 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I thought I'd answered this message, but it seems to have disappeared, so I'll do it again. Hope it doesn't appear twice.

Indeed, there are now more and more "People of that age where it's just not an issue"!

Yes, and they're of all ages.

"Earshot," in which she can hear people's thoughts.

I loved that one.

Larry sits there in the cafeteria and says, "What? I'm gay and I'm out, and it's great. I'm so out, my grandma is hooking me up with guys!" I so enjoyed that little scene.

I didn't like Xander's discomfort, but I did like the scene. I wanted to give Larry's grandmother a hug. And didn't he seem happier, being out?

I take issue with the afterellen list, if Sarah Shahi isn't higher than 7!

Yes, well, she's #1 on my list!

Ditto Katee Sackoff and Grace Park so low

They are both just so sexy. And interesting looking.

But there are some few commonalities to what makes a person sexy, or at least I hope there are: poise, self-awareness, that sort of thing.

Yes. These people have that in spades.

He's the autism expert in Britain who thinks that autistic people have a "male brain."

That makes no sense at all!

You have time on your hands these days.

You think?

Date: 2008-06-05 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
Yes, the great thing these days is that people are just laying off being upset about other people being of a different sexuality. However, we still have those who cling to bigotry: last week I was at my dad's house while the evening news came on. There was a story about when California will issue its first same-sex marriage license. You don't want to know the rude, disgusted noise my dad made, sitting right there, knowing I'm who I am... but in all fairness, I think he keeps forgetting about me, from month to month. So, anyway, I spoke up and laughed a little, saying something mildly sarcastic like "about time! why's anybody even still bothering to get upset by two people in love getting married?" And he shut right up. Sigh.

I wanted to then talk to him about George Takei, but I knew he couldn't hear it. More's the pity. Such a long way we all have come: I loved Star Trek when it was first on; it helped open my mind to the reality that "because I said so" was all there was in life. I'd truly like my dad to be able to enjoy the moment with me. My mother would, were she alive. But my dad is just waiting to join her, and hates this life and everything involved with it. He does not so much hate me, as he just totally disregards that I have any separate being or any rights to be who I am. My dad thinks I'm some sort of damaged human who's good for nothing, and I've realized that he'll never stop thinkign that. This is at the core of how he's never respected my possessions. I have always had to hide things when I take them into that house, or else he'll just take what he wants from my stuff as if it's there for the taking. This is because he genuinely does not see me as an individual with human rights. Gad,t hat sounds cold to write it. I'm just thinking, is all. It's the wa y he is.

Damn. Depressing, this got! Sorry.

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Yes, the great thing these days is that people are just laying off being upset about other people being of a different sexuality. However, we still have those who cling to bigotry: last week I was at my dad's house while the evening news came on. There was a story about when California will issue its first same-sex marriage license. You don't want to know the rude, disgusted noise my dad made, sitting right there, knowing I'm who I am... but in all fairness, I think he keeps forgetting about me, from month to month. So, anyway, I spoke up and laughed a little, saying something mildly sarcastic like "about time! why's anybody even still bothering to get upset by two people in love getting married?" And he shut right up. Sigh.

I wanted to then talk to him about George Takei, but I knew he couldn't hear it. More's the pity. Such a long way we all have come: I loved Star Trek when it was first on; it helped open my mind to the reality that "because I said so" was all there was in life. I'd truly like my dad to be able to enjoy the moment with me. My mother would, were she alive. But my dad is just waiting to join her, and hates this life and everything involved with it. He does not so much hate me, as he just totally disregards that I have any separate being or any rights to be who I am. My dad thinks I'm some sort of damaged human who's good for nothing, and I've realized that he'll never stop thinkign that. This is at the core of how he's never respected my possessions. I have always had to hide things when I take them into that house, or else he'll just take what he wants from my stuff as if it's there for the taking. This is because he genuinely does not see me as an individual with human rights. Gad,t hat sounds cold to write it. I'm just thinking, is all. It's the wa y he is.

Damn. Depressing, this got! Sorry.

<i> <He's the autism expert in Britain who thinks that autistic people have a "male brain." >

That makes no sense at all!</i>

Thank you! What good, I ask, does it do to let yourself get stuck in a binary-bound mindset when you are trying to divine the different ways that human beings can operate in the world?

<i> < You have time on your hands these days. >

You think?</i>

Heh. Thought that would get a reaction. [g]

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Apollo sighting!

Date: 2008-06-02 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
I'm having utterly too much fun with this post!

Jamie Bamber in a towel. You have made my week.

Didn't you love that episode? Please, please treat yourself to watching it again just to ignore the foreground action of that scene in order to concentrate on how much Starbuck/Sackoff was enjoying the rear view of Apollo/Bamber as the towel went through variations of being almost on and almost not on at all. Gad, the looks that passed her face. I really have no idea whether she was acting right then. Somebody needs to ask her, at a con appearance somewhere!

I'll stop now. I am about to eat a peach. Life is, at the moment, very good.

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Date: 2008-06-03 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'm having utterly too much fun with this post!

Isn't it great? I had fun scrutinizing these sites, looking up who people were, that kind of thing.

Jamie Bamber in a towel. You have made my week.

Ooooh yes.

concentrate on how much Starbuck/Sackoff was enjoying the rear view of Apollo/Bamber as the towel went through variations of being almost on and almost not on at all.

LOL - yes.

A peach sounds good! I think I'll have some orange juice.

Re: Apollo sighting!

Date: 2008-06-05 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
Hee hee. You don't think you could make me an alternate icon out of that photo, do you? Sometimes I'm in a Kaylee mood (most times), but sometimes I'm feelin' like a viper pilot [g].

I'm watching my time online (parked at a meter today!!), or I'd be looking all the people up, too. You're lucky you have the internet service you do! I've been happily jealous of that package of yours since you first got it. Rock on!

Peach was wonderful. I still have three left! yay, I'll nab them when I get home. ...Also still have orange juice, and it helped me out greatly when I had the bad allergic reaction to the soap in my mouth, so maybe I should try it now that I'm reacting to the dental stuff? Could not hurt, think I.

What I really want is fresh asparagus. But for some reason it has never come down in price, here, and is hovering at a ridiculous $2.99 to $3.99 a pound. Feh!

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Date: 2008-06-03 08:39 pm (UTC)
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Those are some pretty pictures - thanks for linking! And I love the comments - those are our smart sexy boys all right.

And look at Russell Tovey in at 94. Good for him. Go Alonzo! I also see Ewan McGregor has jumped up 25 places since last year - I wonder why. I didn't think he had any big films out lately. And George Clooney has jumped up 45!

I don't think Gyllenhall would make my list. Or David Beckham, or Gerard Butler, but the others you mention definitely would.

Date: 2008-06-03 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
thanks for linking

My pleasure.

I love the comments - those are our smart sexy boys all right.

They are amazing. It would be good enough if they were attractive and in good shows, and talented, and musical, and all the other wonderful things they are - but they say the right things, and so wittily, and they think the right things, and they support the right causes, and it's just too good to be true. But it is true. And it isn't true of other actors and celebrities, not always, not in the same way.

So: I'm very proud of our guys.

Look at Russell Tovey in at 94.

Yes! I smiled.

Ewan McGregor has jumped up 25 places since last year - I wonder why.

I wondered that too. I don't know of any recent films from him - though he did a TV series about motorcycling through South America, maybe that did it. (I want to see it.)

Is there anyone you think should have been on the list, but wasn't? I have a few favourites I might have wanted there (e.g., Christopher Eccleston!) It was intersting to see who was included and who wasn't.





Date: 2008-06-04 08:07 pm (UTC)
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I thought it was motorcycling in Africa - Long Way Down. Unless he's done another one when I wasn't looking. I watched Long Way Round and enjoyed it.

Is there anyone you think should have been on the list, but wasn't?

*cogitates* Jack Davenport, Matthew McFadyen, James Marsters, Viggo Mortensen.

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