Torchwood: watching Adrift again...

[fajrdrako]

I watched "Adrift" again this evening with commodorified, iclysdale, raynedaze and auriaephiala. I enjoyed it once more, though it seemed even sadder this time.

A few more points and questions:

1. Jonah was taken by the Rift seven months ago. Jack was present. Jack was therefore in Cardiff seven months ago. Was that before he went to the end of the universe with the Doctor, or after he came back from the Valiant? If he was gone for six months, real time, does that mean either that he has only been back one month or less - unlikely in the extreme - or that it has been more than seven months since "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang"?
   
   
2. I loved PC Andy saying "Bloody Torchwood!"
   
   
3. Wondering again why Ianto gave Gwen the package that led her to the island with the hospice, I realized this time that Ianto had left the package on her desk before she had asked Jack to let her take on Jonah's case, and before Jack had told her 'no'. How did Ianto know she was going to reopen the case? How did he know to leave the information on her desk when she had presumably dropped it? He's smart, but not prescient. Had he expected her to find it, and to ask Jack what it led to?
   
   
4. As we got to the sex scene, iclysdale asked whether Jack or Ianto actually had a flat or any kind of a home - wondering why they couldn't just go home for sex. We thought it over: Jack certainly does not have any other home, he lives in the Hub - or under it. And Ianto? We've never seen his place, or ever had any reference to it. It seems likely that he has moved into the Hub with Jack.
   
   I'm sure Ianto would like that, anyway. And I can't think of any argument against it.
   
   I would add that even if Jack and Ianto did have somewhere to go, they obviously enjoy sex in the Hub. They could use the beds in the infirmary if they wanted to, or Jack's room. But where's the fun in that?
   
   
5. I noticed that in their conversation on the cliff, once Gwen touched Jack's hand, he couldn't say 'no' to her. Not that saying 'no' to her ever did any good, anyway.
   
   
6. Why does Gwen assume Jack won't allow maternity leave? She hasn't asked him.
   
   
7. maaseru wanted me to add that Nicky treated Gwen badly: that Gwen only investigated the case because Nickey wanted to, and she had no right to blame Gwen when she changed her mind. We agreed that, however bad the truth, in the end, knowing is better than not knowing.
   
   
8. I like the theory (promuglated by halfspokenwords and janne_d, that when Jack was bellowing for Ianto, it was because he'd been left somewhere in handcuffs.
   

Comments

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

I loved PC Andy saying "Bloody Torchwood!"

I liked him saying "you've got a face like a slapped arse" to Gwen. Made me laugh.

Why does Gwen assume Jack won't allow maternity leave? She hasn't asked him

I suspect there isn't a policy for it. But Gwen is probably thinking that they are already effectively a man down when it comes to field work because Owen is so fragile now that he is dead - though I'm not sure they are actually sticking to that on the program.

I like the theory (promuglated by halfspokenwords and janne_d, that when Jack was bellowing for Ianto, it was because he'd been left somewhere in handcuffs.

Oh, it's not just us. I've seen many reviews that said the exact same thing. So either watching Torchwood promotes this kind of thinking, or we are watching Torchwood because our minds work like that anyway... chicken or egg?

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I liked him saying "you've got a face like a slapped arse" to Gwen. Made me laugh.

Yes, me too. Andy is wonderful. I love the way Gwen and Andy act together. They seem so natural - as if the actors have a real rapport.

Re maternity leave:
I suspect there isn't a policy for it.

Well, no, that's the point. Gwen could always raise the issue - negotiate with Jack, or at least see how he feels about it. Perhaps she is using it as a factor in her own uncertainty about whether she wants children? Or maybe she thought she want children, but the idea of being sidelines to a desk job at Torchwood, or part-time work, or putting her life in danger constantly when she had dependents - maybe that is all just too much for her? Maybe she has changed her mind, and doesn't want to put it that way to Rhys?

Owen is so fragile now that he is dead - though I'm not sure they are actually sticking to that on the program.

Yes, he's dead still, and fragile - you can tell by the mummy-like wrappings on his hand.

So either watching Torchwood promotes this kind of thinking, or we are watching Torchwood because our minds work like that anyway... chicken or egg?

It just means that watching Torchwood means we are insightful and perceptive viewers, that's all.

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

Yes, he's dead still, and fragile - you can tell by the mummy-like wrappings on his hand

I meant more that if they were really sticking to that, there is no way Owen should be going on field missions - but next episode, there he is.

Have you watched Fragments yet? Possibly the best episode so far. (Squee!)

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I meant more that if they were really sticking to that, there is no way Owen should be going on field missions - but next episode, there he is.

Maybe he wants to go - and Jack doesn't think it's right to argue with a dead guy?

Maybe Jack thinks Owen's future is limited anyway, so might as well let him enjoy what's left to him among the living?

Have you watched Fragments yet? Possibly the best episode so far. (Squee!)

I just finished two minutes ago. SQUEEE!