I think they were pretty strongly implying that both Mickey and Martha will join Torchwood
I thought so too. I'm happy about Martha. Mixed feelings about Mickey - it depends what they do with him. My sense of Mickey is all tied up in his plot/theme with Rose. Without Rose, what is he like? I don't know. I'm not particularly curious but if they have ideas, it might be interesting. It would be interesting to have two members of the Torchwood team experienced in travel in time and space. And one of them with her personal post-Sontaran teleportation device.
Jack even has that line about finding Martha something better than UNIT at the end.
I love they way they are featuring UNIT, good and bad. I'd love to see Torchwood run the Valiant. (not that I don't love the Hub, and it seems they want to keep Torchwood's adventures in and around present-day Cardiff.)
I don't know if he has ever had 5, but he has definitely travelled with several at a time in the older Who series.
No reason he couldn't have as many companions as he wants. I assume the Doctor keeps himself to one or two companions now because of his post-Time-War PTSS problems. This has the following effects:
(1) we can focus on his relationships and interplay with one companion at a time, which makes for better stories
(2) we get a badly-behaved TARDIS that thinks for itself sometimes, leading to interesting storylines
(3) we get those wonderful scenes of the Doctor driving with his feet and hopping around the place and using percussive driving techniques
So I don't want him to get a full crew and 'fix' things. But I'm sure Jack would be helpful, if he kept him around for a bit - ! Okay, that was self-serving of me to say. But it was sincere. [g]
Only if she goes back to Germany and collects it - she wasn't wearing it when the Daleks took her out of the Osterhagen station.
If I was her, I'd pick it up. Can't leave something like that lying around. And if she goes back for it an it's gone, there's another plot waiting to be told.
how cool was it when the Daleks were speaking German?
I loved that almost as much as the Doctor speaking Judoon in the previous episode.
I hate that so much I am still largely incoherent about it and tend to end up muttering "bastards, bastards, bastards" a lot.
Understandable. I don't hate it, at least not yet, it hasn't touched my emotional buttons. But I'm struggling to know what to make of it.
I believe the implication is that Donna can never be told or encounter anything again that would revive her memories without being destroyed.
There's a way around anything. The Doctor's intentions are benign, but I want her to remember. Like people who spontaneously remember despite Retcon.
Because she was so fantastic and now she's stuck back being stifled and small and believing she isn't special.
Yes. I want her to remember that. Rose remembers everything except the height of the Vortex experience - why not get that for Donna? If the Doctor could remove memories, couldn't he fix it so that she just loses the Time Lord experience at the end?
I was actually uncomfortable with Donna-as-time-lord because it was (a) such an echo of Rose as vortex goddess and (b) unlike Donna - her special brilliant consists in being human, not being Time Lord. I loved that moment in "The Stolen Earth" when she proclaimed that being a human was as good as being a Time Lord. So - this wasn't a moment I liked. Must think it through.
though I liked Sylvia finally sticking up for her, the way she told the Doctor to get out when he called her on attitude does not suggest to me that she is going to be any better at being supportive in the long run.
No, I agree. The relationship won't have changed because Donna won't have changed. And Sylvia is still a controller.
Donna deserved a far better ending than that.
Yes. I haven't lost hope that we'll get it. I wonder what Steven Moffat thinks of Donna. Mind you, given what he did with River Song, I'm not sure he'd do better.
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Date: 2008-07-06 02:45 pm (UTC)I thought so too. I'm happy about Martha. Mixed feelings about Mickey - it depends what they do with him. My sense of Mickey is all tied up in his plot/theme with Rose. Without Rose, what is he like? I don't know. I'm not particularly curious but if they have ideas, it might be interesting. It would be interesting to have two members of the Torchwood team experienced in travel in time and space. And one of them with her personal post-Sontaran teleportation device.
Jack even has that line about finding Martha something better than UNIT at the end.
I love they way they are featuring UNIT, good and bad. I'd love to see Torchwood run the Valiant. (not that I don't love the Hub, and it seems they want to keep Torchwood's adventures in and around present-day Cardiff.)
I don't know if he has ever had 5, but he has definitely travelled with several at a time in the older Who series.
No reason he couldn't have as many companions as he wants. I assume the Doctor keeps himself to one or two companions now because of his post-Time-War PTSS problems. This has the following effects:
(1) we can focus on his relationships and interplay with one companion at a time, which makes for better stories
(2) we get a badly-behaved TARDIS that thinks for itself sometimes, leading to interesting storylines
(3) we get those wonderful scenes of the Doctor driving with his feet and hopping around the place and using percussive driving techniques
So I don't want him to get a full crew and 'fix' things. But I'm sure Jack would be helpful, if he kept him around for a bit - ! Okay, that was self-serving of me to say. But it was sincere. [g]
Only if she goes back to Germany and collects it - she wasn't wearing it when the Daleks took her out of the Osterhagen station.
If I was her, I'd pick it up. Can't leave something like that lying around. And if she goes back for it an it's gone, there's another plot waiting to be told.
how cool was it when the Daleks were speaking German?
I loved that almost as much as the Doctor speaking Judoon in the previous episode.
I hate that so much I am still largely incoherent about it and tend to end up muttering "bastards, bastards, bastards" a lot.
Understandable. I don't hate it, at least not yet, it hasn't touched my emotional buttons. But I'm struggling to know what to make of it.
I believe the implication is that Donna can never be told or encounter anything again that would revive her memories without being destroyed.
There's a way around anything. The Doctor's intentions are benign, but I want her to remember. Like people who spontaneously remember despite Retcon.
Because she was so fantastic and now she's stuck back being stifled and small and believing she isn't special.
Yes. I want her to remember that. Rose remembers everything except the height of the Vortex experience - why not get that for Donna? If the Doctor could remove memories, couldn't he fix it so that she just loses the Time Lord experience at the end?
I was actually uncomfortable with Donna-as-time-lord because it was (a) such an echo of Rose as vortex goddess and (b) unlike Donna - her special brilliant consists in being human, not being Time Lord. I loved that moment in "The Stolen Earth" when she proclaimed that being a human was as good as being a Time Lord. So - this wasn't a moment I liked. Must think it through.
though I liked Sylvia finally sticking up for her, the way she told the Doctor to get out when he called her on attitude does not suggest to me that she is going to be any better at being supportive in the long run.
No, I agree. The relationship won't have changed because Donna won't have changed. And Sylvia is still a controller.
Donna deserved a far better ending than that.
Yes. I haven't lost hope that we'll get it. I wonder what Steven Moffat thinks of Donna. Mind you, given what he did with River Song, I'm not sure he'd do better.