Buffy the Vampire Slayer (2x15) Phases
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Buffy (2x15) Phases
Feels like a change of pace, because it isn't about Spike and Angel. I'd be happier if it was, but that's okay, it was an interesting story anyway.
Confession: I thought Oz was more interesting before he was a werewolf, but that's okay. I didn't anticipate that he was going to be the werewolf, which was pretty cool.
Actually I'm not too fond of werewolf stories, despite attempts to read Kelley Armstrong's novels. One exception: the 12th century story "Bisclavret" by Marie de France about a knight who was a werewolf. And it's slashy, too. Oz doesn't much resemble the knight of "Bisclavret". But in some ways... not too dissimilar, either: both are sympathetic characters who get a happy ending. (At least in the short term - I'm not predicting anything about Oz beyond this.)
Feels like a change of pace, because it isn't about Spike and Angel. I'd be happier if it was, but that's okay, it was an interesting story anyway.
Confession: I thought Oz was more interesting before he was a werewolf, but that's okay. I didn't anticipate that he was going to be the werewolf, which was pretty cool.
Actually I'm not too fond of werewolf stories, despite attempts to read Kelley Armstrong's novels. One exception: the 12th century story "Bisclavret" by Marie de France about a knight who was a werewolf. And it's slashy, too. Oz doesn't much resemble the knight of "Bisclavret". But in some ways... not too dissimilar, either: both are sympathetic characters who get a happy ending. (At least in the short term - I'm not predicting anything about Oz beyond this.)
- We see Amy's mother's trophy again. Cute. Oz likes it. I like it that he's... observant.
- I have a friend who talks like Oz. I'm wondering why. Don't think she's a Buffy fan - I don't think it's deliberate. "My time was also of the good" sounds just like her. Willow sometimes sounds similar, but not consistently.
- Good Oz line: "You've really mastered the single entendre."
- Oz says of Willow, "Yeah, she's actually an evil mastermind. It's fun." This sounds more true than it ought to be.
- Love the conversation between Willow and Buffy:
Willow: He's great. We have a lot of fun. But I want smoochies!
Aaah, I feel for you, girl. Been there, done that.
Buffy: Have you dropped any hints?
Willow: I've dropped anvils.
Buffy: Ah, he'll come around. What guy could resist your wily Willow charms?
Willow: At last count, all of them. Maybe more. - And poor Buffy: "I was going on two minutes there without thinking about Angel."
- So Xander is making out with Cordelia while worrying about Willow - and says so. Oh, Xander, Xander, that's bad form. When they get menaced by a werewolf - it's no less than he deserves!
- I enjoyed this bit:
Giles: Meaning the accepted legend that werewolves only prowl during a full moon might be erroneous.
In some ways, I like the Giles/Cordelia exchanges even more than the Xander/Cordelia banter.
Cordelia: Or it could be a crock. - I like the way Buffy wants to defend Theresa against Larry. And her sour thoughts about men linger:
Giles:It acts on pure instinct. No conscience, predatory and aggressive.
Can't blame her. Angel has a lot to answer for.
Buffy: In other words, your typical male.
Xander: On behalf of my gender, hey.
Giles: Yes, let's not jump to any conclusions.
Buffy: I didn't jump. I took a tiny step, and there conclusions were. - So they go werewolf-hunting. This seems to be different from vampire-hunting in that werewolves target parked cars with people in them, rather than people strolling in parks or on the street.
- The theme of male posturing and female defensiveness continues:
Cain: Well, it's good to get the fruit while it's fresh.
Cain makes the notion of selling werewolf pelts totally repellent - like skinning pandas or something. He has an interesting deal with his conscience:
Giles: You'd be wise to take that back.Buffy: And it doesn't bother you that a werewolf is a person twenty-eight days out of the month?Cain: That's why I only hunt 'em the other three.
And at last we get an explanation of the lover's lane situation:Buffy: You're looking for a party?
And then Buffy calls him "mein furrier". Good one. I love the way this show handles recognizable 'types' from popular fiction.
Cain: No, but the werewolf is. They're suckers for that whole sexual heat thing. Sense it miles away. Since this little doggie ain't here, I guess he found another place.
- Then poor Theresa falls in with Angel, as if being hounded by Larry wasn't bad enough. Frying pan to fire. And Angel is smooth as Larry could never imagine being.
- I love it that Willow and Cordelia discuss their man-troubles together. "Oz and I are in some sort of holding pattern, except without the holding." They fall back on the sexist answer:
Cordelia: What's he waiting for? What's his problem? Oh, that's right, he's a guy.
This all seems very convincing to me!
Willow: Yeah, him and Xander. Guys.
Cordelia: Who do they think they are?
Willow: A couple of guys. - Love Buffy's description of the Bronze as "Sunnydale's own house of hormones."
- The theme of sexism gets replayed when Cain turns up:
Cain: You let it get away.
Buffy: I didn't let it do anything. I had the chain around its neck.
Cain: Chain? What were you gonna do, take it for a walk?
Buffy: I was going to lock it up.
Cain: That's beautiful. This is what happens when a woman tries to do a man's job. - On the whole, I think Buffy out-toughs Cain:
Cain: You know, sis, if that thing out there harms anyone, it's going to be on your pretty little head. I hope you can live with that.
When Buffy says "I live with that every day," I assume she's thinking of the deaths caused by vampires she hasn't prevented from killing? How often does this happen? Does she pretty much keep up with the death rate, or is it always beyond her, or do we even know?
Buffy: I live with that every day.
Cain: First they tell me I can't hunt an elephant for its ivory... Now I've gotta deal with People for the Ethical Treatment of Werewolves.
Giles: Pillock! - Cute Buffy line: "I'm guessing you didn't see anything either from that vantage point of having your eyes closed."
- Giles says, "We have another whole night. There's nothing more we can do now. It's nearly sunrise. That werewolf won't be a werewolf much longer." Until next month, presumably.
- So now we find out about Oz. Love his phone conversation with his aunt: "Aunt Maureen. Hey, it's me. Um, what? Oh! It's, uh... actually it's healing okay. That's pretty much the reason I called. Um, I wanted to ask you something. Is Jordy a werewolf? Uh-huh. And how long has that been going on? Uh-huh. What? No, no reason." Only in Sunnydale. And Aunt Maureen didn't think to warn Oz? I guess not. Presumably Jody is just a puppy werewolf.
- I continue to love Oz's speech patterns:
Oz: Is everybody okay? Did anyone get bitten or, or scratched?
Willow: No, we're fine.
Oz: Gladness. - So Xander confronts Larry, lone hero-style: "I know what you've been doing at night." And it just gets funnier (and sadder) as we see that what Xander's thinking about and what Larry's thinking about aren't the same thing.
- I like Xander's distress at the friendship between Willow and Cordelia: "Wow, those two gals are hanging out a lot together. This would be a good time to panic."
- And when Theresa attacks, she knows just what to say to Buffy: "Angel sends his love."
- So Willlow learns that Oz is the werewolf and tells the others: "Can't you just trust me on this? He-he said he was going through all these changes. Then he went through all these... changes." Then they save Oz from Cain and save everyone else from Oz. Good.
- It seems that Larry's confession to Xander has given him a change of heart where it comes to dealing with women. Not entirely convincing, but cute. They made me want to see things turn out all right for Larry.
- Good for Buffy for telling Xander that Willow's relationship with Oz isn't for him to meddle in. And the conversation between Willow and Oz is great:
Willow: Well, I like you. You're nice and you're funny. And you don't smoke. Yeah, okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month I'm not much fun to be around either.
And then Willow is brave enough to kiss him.
Oz: You are quite the human.
Willow: So, I'd still if you'd still.
Oz: I'd still. I'd *very* still.
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Date: 2008-05-04 03:16 am (UTC)I just wrote a long paragraph about my attitude to slashiness in this show and then erased it all. Basically I don't see the slash because I don't want to see it because the young characters seem like children to me. Perhaps I will get over this in a season or so. I like Buffy with Angel (as on the show) but on the whole I find them way too immature in style to be sexually interesting in any way. It's not their ages per se, it's how they are depicted; there's a squick factor. I am trying to overcome this. But this is one of the things that kept me from watching Buffy for a decade. (It still gives me a level of difficulty, and not just with regard to the idea of slash.)
Yes, I know "pillock" well - I don't even think of it as being rare. From Chambers (http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=pillock&title=21st):
Brit slang a stupid or foolish person.
it was just a minor subplot. I loved it.
I didn't love it because (a) Xander came off as homophobic - I can forgive that, but it is clear he was uncomfortable with Larry's comments, and that was mildly distressing, and (b) it was kind of predictable. But I still enjoyed the scene.
might have been one of the first mainstream-type gay-character-outed situations on tv
Really? Clearly, we were watching different TV!
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Date: 2008-05-05 03:45 am (UTC)(And I just erased my own little paragraph... similar!)
Again, waht I said about the scenes with Larry came from that detached-from-time perspective. yeah, Xander was homophobic; it turned me off big time. But Larry was a good character, you have to admit. And, yes, this episode was one of the first on mainstream American TV to address such an issue without making it into a big deal.
I was writing that from the union office after a long, sensory-muddled day, with a lot on my mind... didn't say things very well, did I? Sorry!
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Date: 2008-05-05 01:07 pm (UTC)I think all the young ones act younger than their age. (Compare, for example, with "Veronica Mars".) There's a style to the show... I still have trouble with the way the young females look and talk, even when I like them and like their dialogue. I deal with it by ignoring it so I try not to talk about it.
And I see no proto-slash Buffy/Willow implications.
The word 'subtext' didn't come from Xena fandom, though it got used a lot there.
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Date: 2008-05-06 01:03 am (UTC)I know.
I'm with you on the "younger than their age" stuff. It all seems like some kind of pseudo-high-school from another dimension.
I keep getting the feeling that I've missed something by not having seen Veronica Mars! You speak so highly of it. The one episode I saw was good, although too realistic for me -- the man getting killed by having someone smash a baseball bat against his head, I mean. The moment the swing started, the man was dead... hate it that I know too much about injuries like that.
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Date: 2008-05-06 03:41 pm (UTC)And they show flashes of maturity. The story works becuase (a) it's fantasy anyway and (b) it has a lot of internal consistency - it convinces us despite itself. Otherwise - why it was written that way, I'm not sure. Perhaps because the producers originally wanted a show for kids?
I keep getting the feeling that I've missed something by not having seen Veronica Mars!
Well, yes - ! It was a brilliant show. Especially first season, which had a tight structure. When I saw it I had no idea how much it had in common with Buffy, but it was more mature, and grounded in something much more like the real world. With its own touch of surreality, of course - Lily was a recurring character, and a ghost. It didn't have Spike, but it had Logan Echolls, whom I adored. (Not at first. Everyone hated him at first.)
I'm not sure I understand your comment about the baseball bat, but it's probably better if you don't explain. None of the violence in Veronica Mars was so graphic or gross as to bother me.
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Date: 2008-05-07 12:33 am (UTC)You're right: Buffy was set as a fantasy, and the internal oddness of the high schoolers' behavior and language thus didn't jar so much. After a while, it became something believeable all by itself. (I've told you about the papers written about "Buffy-speak," no?) Hm. Fantasy, taking itself as fantasy. With internal consistencies. Neat.
Oh, my, yes, I see I've missed something with Veronica Mars. Now I'm going to have to acquire that on DVD too... thanks so much for another obsession-in-waiting!
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Date: 2008-05-07 03:11 am (UTC)It builds its own strange reality. Which I like. I might (and do) wish is were different in some ways, but it's fun as it is. I also think that some of the things Buffy does wrong, Firefly gets absolutely right. (Age issues, for example.)
The first season of Veronica Mars sets up an interesting murder mystery (and rape mystery) at the outset and each episode explores the mystery a little futher, while presenting a story of its own, usually based in the high school. Veronica is very like Buffy in many ways, without the Slaying, and with considerably higher intelligence. (I'm not saying that Buffy is dumb; it's more that Veronica is brilliant, and equally troubled.)