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Ahhh: this week is a good time to be a Torchwood fan.

And it's hard to know where to start in enumerating the ways I loved this one.
  1. Gwen Cooper. As I've said before, I love the character, and that includes loving her flaws - no, I don't like liars in the least, but I find it interesting to see a sympathetic lead character who lies and is unfaithful to her boyfriend. Now that Gwen seems to have stopped both the lying and the infidelity, she is no less interesting - her policy of telling the truth is getting her into trouble, too.

    So: Gwen in "Adrift" was headstrong, stubborn, dedicated, smart, stupid, resourceful and downright fascinating. Her strengths were weaknesses and vice versa: she listened to the right people at the wrong times, and the wrong people at the right times. And generally went her own way anyway. For the last few episode I hadn't found her as pretty as usual; here she was downright stunning. What's different?

    Scene after scene, I loved Gwen's interactions: accusing Rhys of wittering, then being surprised by his forceful reaction; wanting to help Nicky, and then ultimately being able only to give her the knowledge that was more painful than the doubt; her embarrassment, amusement and fascination at walking in on Jack and Ianto's, er, dabbling; and the dirty trick she played on PC Andy at the dock.

    Gwen: gorgeous.

  2. Rhys used to be the perfect boyfriend. Now he's the perfect husband. All the more so in that he isn't letting Gwen walk all over him. Feed him toast in bed, that's another matter.

  3. PC Andy. Oh, how I love PC Andy!



    So he didn't go to Gwen's wedding, and went on the defensive when she asked him about it. Sounds as if he said he'd be there, and didn't show - bad form. Look what he missed - a murdering alien, and an experience with Retcon! Gwen thinks he's in love with her: he may be. (Wouldn't blame him.) And he wants to join Torchwood. I'd love to see him there - but does he have an area of extraordinary expertise?

    Tell me to get visions of Jack/Andy slash out of my head, okay?

  4. Another reason to love this episode is that there was nothing about the Tosh and Owen relationship. Tosh was - well, not at her very best, but not bad at all. It was fun to see her working with Gwen.

  5. One of the things I enjoyed was a new and unexpected sense of Jack's secrets. We've always known he has secrets from the Torchwood team - his own past as a con man or Time Agent, his knowledge of the Doctor, the future. But now we know he has projects going on that are not directly related to Torchwood. Projects he is reluctant to talk about. He has always told them the Rift was a one-way trip: this exposes his lie.

  6. But Ianto knew about the convalescent home for Rift abductees. This is the first indication we've had that Jack has told Ianto things he hasn't told the others.

    Why did Ianto think Gwen should know? Why give her the clue she needed? Perhaps Ianto thought she'd never give up until she knew the truth, and he'd help her before she drove them all crazy. Maybe he thinks Jack should tell everyone, but hasn't presuaded him to do so yet. Will Gwen tell the others, or will she keep Jack's secret? And what other secrets are Jack and Ianto keeping from the others?

  7. Interesting too to see that Ianto has a mind of his own and acts on it, even when it isn't what Jack wants.

  8. [livejournal.com profile] maaseru thought it looked like a great many missing people. Gwen seemed to think so, too. The show didn't give statistics - though I loved that scene where at first Nicky thought no one else would show up for her support group, and then more and more people arrived. How many people, in a town the size of Cardiff - or Ottawa - go missing and are never found, over a ten year period? I'm not even sure how to look it up. I suppose the 'and never found' is the tricky bit: of the many people who go missing, over ten years the majority of them would turn up alive, dead, or as runaways. The difference in Cardiff, of course, is you add in a percentage of extra disappearances for Rift anomalies.1

  9. Jack has always said it was impossible to go through the Rift and come back. Obviously this is not true, but if the Rift takes people randomly, it seems impossible that 17 people would be able to come back to the planet they'd started. Even if there were initially hundreds of them: surely if dropped randomly into other parts of the universe, they would would simply perish in the vacuum of space or in the heart of some star or planet. Seems to me there are implications there: that the Rift is not as random in space and time as it seemed. Those seventeen people were unfixably damaged, but they survived and came back.

  10. Though Gwen says she trusts Jack (and she does), I was amused that she was willing to trust the story of a stranger, Jonah, but not to stay and listed to Jack when he was ready to tell her the whole story. That's what being passionate in one's reactions can do to you. In the end it pretty much backfired on her, but I'm not sure if she would have done anything differently if she'd talked to Jack before going to see Jonah. I suppose it would have depended on what Jack told her: he could have told her Jonah's condition. I think by that time Jack was ready to just let events transpire and see what happened.

  11. Nicky was interesting. I thought at one point, at the end, that she wasn't even going to see Jonah again, that she couldn't bear it - but I don't think that's it. After months of hope, she gets the truth all in one blow and will need some adjustment time.

    Why did I get the impression that after returning from beyond the Rift, most of the survivors didn't live long?

  12. What is the relationship between Rift activity and Captain John's vortex manipulator? It looked as if Captain John was able to use the Rift as a wormhole to go where he wanted - was it like getting an extra push into the Time Vortex?

  13. Remember how I've been ranting over the past week - ever since "Out From the Rain" - that I don't have enough sense of the relationship between Jack and Ianto? Well, here we got a good glimpse of it, and I loved it.

    And no, I don't mean the sex, though I was happy to see that, too. (More, please.) No, I mean the sense of sexual connection, the awareness each had of the other even when they weren't touching any more - they were getting dressed, they were talking to Gwen (and looking at her) but they were totally aware of each other all the time, in a very visceral way. Of course: they were still aroused, having been interrupted.

    And they were giddy with it. High on endorphins. Happy in the moment. Enjoying loving each other. That was what I wanted to see.

  14. So Jack invited Gwen to join them. I had several reactions to that:

    • He really does want her, and taken by surprise, aroused, and unthinking, expressed what he might not otherwise have said

    • Annoyed to be interrupted, he expressed what he might not otherwise have said

    • Ianto knows all about Jack's feeling for Gwen and it's fine with him. He's probably taking all his sexual cues from Jack these days, no limits

    • It might well be the polite 51st century response anyone would make when caught having sex - invite the other party to join in.

  15. We were discussing a few days ago whether Jack wears his wristband during sex. I had to look at the scene several dozen times to be sure, but his wrists are bare. So: he at least sometimes takes the wristband off. My guess would be that if he is undressing for sex (as opposed to having sex with his clothes on), he takes off the wristband.

  16. Love Ianto's smile.

  17. Love Jack's body.

  18. All the rest aside, it was fun to see how playful Jack and Ianto are with sex. Naked hide and seek? Is that like the game Stephanie Plum calls "hide the sausage" in the Janet Evanovich novels?

  19. Some of the joy of this episode was that many of the things I don't like about Torchwood weren't there. No blood, no fighting, no plastic-headed aliens, almost no Owen. And though I like the off-the-wall stories on crack, I like this better: character-based and realistic, dealing with implications of their situation rather than direct action and monster menaces.

  20. I wondered if anyone came back from the other side of the Rift undamaged enough to go home again. From what Captain Jack said, it seems not. If they did - I imagine no one would believe their experiences, if they were even willing to talk about them.

    This struck me as the dark side of the Rose Tyler story. She wandered off into the time vortex with a chance-met alien and came back twelve months later - yes, they'd aimed at twelve hours, but the point is that she came back, happy and safe and sound, despite a few close calls. These people didn't come back safe and sound and will probably never be happy again.

    Martha Jones came back changed, but she came back stronger and wiser and braver. Another success story.

    The biggest difference, of course, is that both Rose and Martha were in the hands of a benign alien who, though he might get them almost killed on a thousand occasions, cared about them and (so far) always got them out of trouble and back home again.

  21. But we do know two people who went through the Rift and came back again with no more damange than a broken heart - Jack and Tosh did, in "Captain Jack Harkness". Was Bilis responsible for both the guided nature of their disappearance, and the safety of their return - or was it that their Rift manipulator works better than anyone dreamed?

    Come to think of it, Jack's knowledge of what happens to people who fall through might be his incentive for building and trying to perfect the Rift manipulator. He wants that kind of thing to stop.

    What did Gwen expect from him, when she demanded that Torchwood do something about the problem? Does she think he has a magic wand? Haven't they been trying to 'do something' about the Rift all along? Gwen seemed to be thinking of something more like - a public awareness project, maybe?

    As the story ended up showing, knowledge is not always the best thing.

  22. The episode was from Gwen's point of view. It would have been interesting to see it from Jack's point of view. Completely different story. Mind you, we don't get much from Jack's poitn of view. Too bad.

  23. At last - beautiful Welsh scenery. I loved the scene of Jack and Gwen, sitting together. A welcome change after all we've seen of sodden and littered back alleys and city streets.

  24. One of the things I really liked was that Jack, having set up his top-secret hidden hospice for incurable Rift-casualties, goes to visit the people there. I don't think his visit was purely administrative - though it looked as if they might have found another person. I think Jack cares enough to come back, knowing them personally, and caring about their fates.

~ ~ ~
1 Not to mention hungry aliens, vicious Weevils, fairy abduction and Sleeper terrorism.


Date: 2008-03-20 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsylady.livejournal.com
A few other observations.

1. Gwen apologizes to Ianto, not to Jack. I really think those two have some kind of relationship that we never get to see. Someone wrote a really neat fic about Gwen and Ianto forming a bond while Jack was away; that could explain why he gave her the information. He knows her better than Jack does.

2. Jack is his usual wise-ass self after being caught in flagrante. I expected him to be like that. It was the smiling, only mildly discomfited, happy, joking Ianto that surprised me. "He cheats. He always cheats." (How does one cheat at "find the sausage?" And, yeah, I think that is what they were playing.)

3. Two very pretty men. I still don't care what they're doing with their outie bits but MAN that was a pretty thing to see, wasn't it?

4. They've said before that they can send things back through the rift. They were going to try to send the Spacewhale back, remember? So surely they've all at least thought about the rift taking things. I think Owen knows more than he said. And I think I like that Gwen and Tosh were the ones left out. "Don't tell the girls, they'll just go all soft-hearted over it." Men as such scum, sometimes.

5. How much do I love Rhys? The opposite of scum. The exception that proves the rule.

6. And how pathetic am I that I got up early this morning to watch the episode (it took longer than I'd expected to download) and then jumped online to see your review? LOL!

Date: 2008-03-20 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Gwen apologizes to Ianto, not to Jack.

Good point.

I really think those two have some kind of relationship that we never get to see. Someone wrote a really neat fic about Gwen and Ianto forming a bond while Jack was away; that could explain why he gave her the information. He knows her better than Jack does.

The rapport we see between them in "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" would be evidence for this theory. Yes, I like it. It fits what we see.

Jack is his usual wise-ass self after being caught in flagrante.

Yes: cheeky devil. It's not the first time and it won't be the last.

It was the smiling, only mildly discomfited, happy, joking Ianto that surprised me.

Well, of course he's happy - Jack's got him in a very happy state. Given the high he's on he'd probably smile at apocalypse, the plague and alien attack - at least, if they happened within the next few minutes.

How does one cheat at "find the sausage?"

That is a matter to seriously consider. Hmm.

And, yeah, I think that is what they were playing.

Yes, I think so.

Two very pretty men. I still don't care what they're doing with their outie bits but MAN that was a pretty thing to see, wasn't it?

Oh, yes. Ianto wasn't the only one feeling happy at that moment.

They were going to try to send the Spacewhale back, remember?

True. I'd forgotten that. A long shot, but they thought it worth trying. Initially. Then it didn't work out. Poor space whale. Still - if they'd tipped him into the heart of a sun, that wouldn't have worked out very well for him, either.

So, yes, what they've said is that the Rift can be a two-way portal but it's uncontrollable. Except, presumably, a little bit, by their Rift manipulator that still doesn't quite do the job right, but helps.

I think Owen knows more than he said.

Remember that Owen thought he could get Diane back. And Diane thought she could go back to 1953.

I think I like that Gwen and Tosh were the ones left out. "Don't tell the girls, they'll just go all soft-hearted over it." Men as such scum, sometimes.

Sounds likely.

How much do I love Rhys?

How could anyone not love Rhys? He's just... well, he's Rhys.

And how pathetic am I that I got up early this morning to watch the episode (it took longer than I'd expected to download) and then jumped online to see your review? LOL!

I'm so glad you did! I'm looking forward to seeing it again. I really am.

Date: 2008-03-20 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsylady.livejournal.com
And how much do we love that Ianto's initial reaction to being caught is to cringe, but he's still grinning, whereas Jack's face makes one think he was about to -- er -- 'splode when Ianto stopped whatever he was doing. Hee hee! Served him right, too! (And what was with him constantly bellowing for Ianto? It's like for this episode he was incapable of doing anything for himself.)

Gwen sleeps on the couch! I am sorry but I couldn't help snorting. She SO deserved it.

I can't imagine that Owen, as team physician (this is the only show I've ever seen where using the term "doctor" is loaded...) is aware of the facility Jack built for the folks come back through the rift. Which could explain why the three men were in agreement (well, even though Ianto clearly had doubts) about Gwen dropping the whole thing.

BTW, how much do you want to bet that sometime between "Adrift" and some unspecified forward date, Gwen and Ianto (he as draftee, I suspect) show up there with brushes and bright paint and pretty posters and so forth? I may have to write it. What was the name of the island?

Yeah, well, I did in fact re-watch most of it at lunch time. How can you tell?

Date: 2008-03-21 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
And what was with him constantly bellowing for Ianto?

Some wonderful person further up the page realized that Ianto had Jack tied or cuffed somewhere. Ianto probably just trussed him up and sauntered off to get coffee without telling Jack where he was going or if he was coming back at all. :-D

WIN!

ETA: It sounded to my American ears like "Phantom Island"? Maybe?

Date: 2008-03-21 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfspokenwords.livejournal.com
Flat Holm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Holm)?

Flat Holm

Date: 2008-03-21 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Flat Holm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Holm)

The place has an interesting history!

Image

Re: Flat Holm

Date: 2008-03-21 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halfspokenwords.livejournal.com
It really does.

My favorite bit:

On May 13, 1897, Guglielmo Marconi, assisted by George Kemp, a Cardiff Post Office engineer, transmitted the first wireless signals over water from Lavernock (near Penarth in Wales) to Flat Holm. The message sent in Morse code was 'ARE YOU READY.

Re: Flat Holm

Date: 2008-03-21 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I wonder if Jack was around at the time? He could have been!

Re: Flat Holm

Date: 2008-03-22 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceindreadh.livejournal.com
If Jack had been around, the message would have read "Are you ready for me!" or been somewhat more explicit :-)

Re: Flat Holm

Date: 2008-03-22 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
And the answer would have been a definitive 'yes'!

Date: 2008-03-21 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Jack's face makes one think he was about to -- er -- 'splode when Ianto stopped whatever he was doing. Hee hee!

Jack was definitely stopped at a moment when he'd rather not have been stopped.

Gwen sleeps on the couch! I am sorry but I couldn't help snorting. She SO deserved it.

Yup. Have I mentioned lately how much I love Rhys? ...And he handles her so well. Jack can't; Jack is too much like Gwen, and they take each other on in full attack. Rhys is honest and forthright and makes her see the truth, even when she doesn't want to.

BTW, how much do you want to bet that sometime between "Adrift" and some unspecified forward date, Gwen and Ianto (he as draftee, I suspect) show up there with brushes and bright paint and pretty posters and so forth? I may have to write it.

Oh, yes, please do!

What was the name of the island?

Flat Holm.




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