Buffy the Vampire Slayer: I, Robot...You, Jane (1x08)

[fajrdrako]

Enjoyed it, despite the really stupid title.

Well, you can imagine I liked the way it started out - medieval ritual. Or is that early Renassance ritual? I think this show is a little loose on its history, but no matter. Lovely pseudo-chruch stuff, and "Carlo, caro mio". Am I just terminally oversexed, or did all that talk about love and "I command you, come" sound like pseudo-eroticism? Ah, well, that's Whedon for you, and I love it.

The terrible career of Moloch. The Circle of Kayless. I like all this stuff. They even speak Italian - bonus points. But "Kayless" doesn't sound Italian or old or anything else. I guess it's demon-talk. I didn't notice the word "Corrupter" in the Italian, but that's okay.

Book magic. Cool.

That being said, it's a bit of a suspension of disbelief to think that a high school library would be acquiring an occult text from 1460. Not a very realistic idea. Or that Giles himself could be wealthy enough to buy it. But hey, I'm watching a show about vampires and the Hellmouth, anything can happen. No problem.

Going back to numbered points:

1. They scan a demon into a computer. Somehow that seems much more believable. And the demon likes Willow. Addendum: don't the computers look old-fashioned? This was only ten years ago. Okay, my computer still looks just like those, but I'm not exactly state of the art. Look at the computers in Torchwood - well, okay, they have alien tech and they're a little in the future, but... in just about any show the computers now look snazzier.

2. Giles doesn't like computers? Oh dear. I do like the exchange, though:

Giles: I'll be back in the middle ages.
Ms Calendar: Did you ever leave?

And the exchange:
Ms. Calendar: More digitized information went across phone lines than conversation.
Giles: That is a fact that I regard with genuine horror.

It's okay, Giles, you'll get used to it.

3. Ms Calendar is beautiful and smart and another teacher. Why did this lead me to think she'd turn out to be either irreparably evil or dead by the end of the episode? But she survived, and she wasn't bad. Kudos to the show for not falling into a repetitive pattern. Slap to my fingers for expecting it, just because other TV shows do it.

4. So Willow has a crush on a guy she met on the Internet but never saw. We can guess who it is. Poor Willow. But really. Only a demon could be that smooth.

5. Buffy becomes the voice of reason. Scary.

6. Scary bit of dialogue:

Ms Calendar: Hey, Fritz, I'm, uh, looking at the logs. You and Dave are clocking a pretty scary amount of computer time.
Fritz: New project.
Ms Calendar: Ooo, will I be excited?
Fritz: You'll die.

7. Cute bit from Xander:
Buffy [re Willow]: She certainly looks perky.
Xander: Yeah, color in the cheeks, bounce in the step. I don't like it. It's not healthy.

8. Fritz and Dave are kind of unimpressive.

9. Couldn't help loving this exchange:

Buffy: Besides, I can just tell something's wrong. My spider sense is tingling.
Giles: Your... spider sense?
Buffy: Pop culture reference. Sorry.

Joss Whedon reads all the right things. I confess: I use the phrase "my spider sense is tingling" fairly often. Early conditioning. So I love it that Buffy does, too.

10. I like the way Willow catches on that Moloch may not be what he appears.

11. It's Xander's turn to wear a really ugly coat.

12. Scary, to see Dave watch his own suicide note being written.

13. 1460 was not the "Dark Ages". Giles would know that. Not that he says it explicitly, and he *is* talking to high school kids.

14. Also liked:

Xander: What does he want with Willow?
Buffy: Let's never find out.

15. So Moloch gets himself a body. I liked this. Robot-demon. Kind of corny, kind of fun. Might have been drawn by Jack Kirby or Rob Liefield.

16. I liked Giles' ritualistic stuff.

17. So Willow meets Moloch, and fights back. Way to go, Willow.

18. Giles: Demon, come! - this brings us back to the beginning.

19. I'm not sure I agree with Giles that knowledge should be smelly. Books are only 'smelly' if they have been mistreated or badly cared for, or left undusted. That implies things about his library that I'd rather not imagine.

20. Do we meet Ms Calendar again? The pretty techno-pagan?

21. Liked the ending, too:

Buffy: Let's face it: none of us are ever gonna have a happy, normal relationship.
Xander: We're doomed.
Willow: Yeah!

Aww. They just don't know how to cheer up, do they?

Comments

[dargie.livejournal.com]

I think by "smelly" Giles meant they should have some kind of very real physical presence. That you should be able to smell the paper, maybe the ink, the binding, even the age rather than having all knowledge being so sterile. I don't think me meant it should reek or anything.

Yes, you will see Miss Calendar again.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I think by "smelly" Giles meant they should have some kind of very real physical presence.

I agree, though I think the wording was unfortunately. It's interesting that... well, if I wanted to emphasize the sensual/physical presence of books, I would probably have talking about their feel - the textures of the paper and the binding, their weight, and so one. But Giles thinks first of smell, which is .. Subtler. Usually.

Anyway, my comments were mostly teasing. Giles has his own way of looking at things - and I didn't think this was a stellar episode, when it comes to Giles, which is not to say that there's ever anything wrong with him. More that - if this were my introduction to him, I wouldn't have understood his essential Giles-ness.

I don't think me meant it should reek or anything.

I hope not! Otherwise... no wonder we don't see a lot of kids in his library.

you will see Miss Calendar again.

Good!

[dargie.livejournal.com]

Isn't that funny? I immediately think of the smell of old books before anything else. They have a wonderful, rich old smell. Sometimes I'll just pick up an old book and sniff it all over.

Do you get the feeling that Joss spent a lot of time in his school library as a kid?

[jadesfire2808.livejournal.com]

*grin* I've been reading these with a huge smile on my face - it's like rediscovering Buffy all over again! Only with someone who's applying more brain cells to it than I ever did at the time - I got stuck at 'cool' and got pretty uncritical after that :)

Books...do smell. Our rare books room at work has got a couple of hundred volumes from the early seventeenth century onwards, and although they're in a controlled environment, they have this distinctive smell. It's like the smell of paper, times about a hundred and with leather added in. It is kind of musty, but it's not at all unpleasant. Well, some of the older leather bound ones are, but most of them just smell of books.

My own personal favourite line from this is the Fritz/Miss Calendear exchange near the beginning:
Fritz: The printed page is obsolete. Information isn't bound up anymore. It's an entity. The only reality is virtual. If you're not jacked in, you're not alive.
Miss Calendar: Yes, thank you, Fritz, for making us all sound like crazy people.
If ever there's a line that I've wanted to quote at some of the nuttier fans...

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Only with someone who's applying more brain cells to it than I ever did at the time - I got stuck at 'cool' and got pretty uncritical after that :)

I'm not sure if I'm applying many brain cells when I'm actually watching - it's on the level of thinking about when I write about it here that the brain cells take their role. I do, however, make notes as I watch - usually incoherent scribbles like "Giles=cute" which I then ignore when making my comments. Because, after all, that goes without saying.

Yes, books have a smell, but they shouldn't be smelly... I think of books as more of a tactile sensation, mostly. But maybe Giles has a very acute sense of smell. Some people do. That's kind of... sexy.

Yes, that line of Fritz's is good - it warns us that Fritz is not a good guy (if we were in any doubt), and, well - the dangers of going overboard.

[gillo]

Addendum: don't the computers look old-fashioned? This was only ten years ago. Okay, my computer still looks just like those, but I'm not exactly state of the art. Look at the computers in Torchwood - well, okay, they have alien tech and they're a little in the future, but... in just about any show the computers now look snazzier.

Once Willow gets a laptop it becomes less of a problem for me. Giles's attitude to computers becomes a bit of a running gag.

Ms Calendar is beautiful and smart and another teacher. Why did this lead me to think she'd turn out to be either irreparably evil or dead by the end of the episode? But she survived, and she wasn't bad. Kudos to the show for not falling into a repetitive pattern. Slap to my fingers for expecting it, just because other TV shows do it.

This isn't just another TV show, as you may have noticed

a few fanatics

your friends point out. Jenny Callendar is quite an important character.

Joss Whedon reads all the right things. I confess: I use the phrase "my spider sense is tingling" fairly often. Early conditioning. So I love it that Buffy does, too.

Buffy

is the home of pop culture references. And other culture. Did we mention just how literate this show is?

19. I'm not sure I agree with Giles that knowledge should be smelly. Books are only 'smelly' if they have been mistreated or badly cared for, or left undusted. That implies things about his library that I'd rather not imagine.

Books tend to be smelly if they are hundreds of years old. There are reasons for Giles having so many such books in his library.

Buffy

: Let's face it: none of us are ever gonna have a happy, normal relationship.

Xander

: We're doomed.

Willow

: Yeah!They just don't know how to cheer up, do they?

This is Joss Whedon's world. They aren't as wrong as they'd like to be.

Loving your reactions here - and really looking forward to how you'll take the next season.

Hurry up!

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Giles's attitude to computers becomes a bit of a running gag.

Hee. I wondered if he might be putting it on a little bit. I don't always want to take Giles at face value.

And given the Moloch thing, and goodness knows what in his past, maybe Giles has good reason to be wary of computers.

This isn't just another TV show, as you may have noticed

Yes indeed. So I have been told. Once or twice. [g]

Did we mention just how literate this show is?

That too might have cropped up in conversation.

[gillo]

I wondered if he might be putting it on a little bit. I don't always want to take Giles at face value.

I think he's genuinely technophobic but even he recognises he's irrational about it. Luckily he has Willow to do the net

hacking

stuff.

This isn't just another TV show, as you may have noticed

Yes indeed. So I have been told. Once or twice. [g]

Did we mention just how literate this show is?

That too might have cropped up in conversation.

You clearly have an intelligent and perceptive bunch of friends.

You might enjoy this analysis of the computer technology in the episode, BTW.

[ceruleancat.livejournal.com]

Am I just terminally oversexed, or did all that talk about love and "I command you, come" sound like pseudo-eroticism?

Not oversexed, but why pseudo? (I don't remember the details of the text, but my recollection of the vibe is clear).

hmmm. OK. *goes and checks the vid...*

"Kayless" doesn't sound Italian or old or anything else.
I always assumed it was meant to be an anglicisation of the original name, whatever it was. Same with a lot of names.
I didn't notice the word "Corrupter" in the Italian, but that's okay.
No. From what I can tell, the translation is a bit loose and much more descriptive than the Italian.

That being said, it's a bit of a suspension of disbelief to think that a high school library would be acquiring an occult text from 1460...

That library has a lot of books that really shouldn't be in a school library. Perhaps they get regular bequests...

Ms. Calendar: More digitized information went across phone lines than conversation.
Giles: That is a fact that I regard with genuine horror.

It's okay, Giles, you'll get used to it.

Getting used to something doesn't make it good or less horrific, only less grating in the immediate sense.

3. Ms Calendar is beautiful and smart and another teacher. Why did this lead me to think she'd turn out to be either irreparably evil or dead by the end of the episode? But she survived, and she wasn't bad.

LOL. Not all other members of staff die on the ep that introduced them. Some get whole seasons. Others just pop up every now and again and recede into the background.


16. I liked Giles' ritualistic stuff.
Awww

19. I'm not sure I agree with Giles that knowledge should be smelly. Books are only 'smelly' if they have been mistreated or badly cared for, or left undusted. That implies things about his library that I'd rather not imagine.

a. I beg to differ on the state of his books. For one thing, books have a smell, even if it isn't mildewy and mistreated, the smell of the pages and the cover (of whatever material), the ink, even the smell of the glue. That gives different blends of smell. Secondly, he's used to handling very old books, and Gods know what they've been through. Even just the aging process of paper and ink gives off a different smell.

b. Rupert is very olfactory-oriented, which I like. Which, I suppose, means that smell helps him recall and locate research information, therefore its absence is like having an index card removed. And there is something about that. My memory - in printed material, works on the visual location of the text on the page, the feel of the page and the volume, even a recollection of where I was when I first read it. Much as i love computers, digitised information lacks much of these extra cues, leaving retrieval almost entirely to the actual content.


Buffy: Let's face it: none of us are ever gonna have a happy, normal relationship.
Xander: We're doomed.
Willow: Yeah!

Aww. They just don't know how to cheer up, do they?

They just know their Joss, I suppose. (btw, do you know that in Chinese, 'joss' means 'deity', and by extension, 'luck'?)

[ceruleancat.livejournal.com]

Oh, I forgot this was the corkscrew ep! This discussion has an extra amusing dimension. If you look carefully, right before or after she says "That's not where I dangle it", when Rupert turns his head to the right, one can see ASH has a hole for an earring, which they didn't cover well enough for a closeup during a dialogue about earrings.

*you realize, of course, that between my first comment and this, I skimmed through the ep because of you*

I do love a lot of bits from this ep, although I really don't like Jenny's attitude to Rupert and never did.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

If you look carefully, right before or after she says "That's not where I dangle it", when Rupert turns his head to the right, one can see ASH has a hole for an earring, which they didn't cover well enough for a closeup during a dialogue about earrings.

Oh - that's so funny! Wonderful! Makes me wonder about Giles' secret life. Er, I mean, lives.

*you realize, of course, that between my first comment and this, I skimmed through the ep because of you*

The terrible things I force upon you.

although I really don't like Jenny's attitude to Rupert and never did.

Do you care to elaborate? Do you think she's condescending?

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Not oversexed, but why pseudo? (I don't remember the details of the text, but my recollection of the vibe is clear).

"Pseudo-" because the sexuality is mostly verbal not physical.

From what I can tell, the translation is a bit loose and much more descriptive than the Italian.

I am prejudiced by my own love of Italian, but that part was wonderful. It was very clear, understandable Italian - clear, that is, even to my rusty ears - and very beautiful. And with lines like "Te amo, Carlo, mio caro," how could I not like it? Add the medieval mood - well. Nice.

Perhaps they get regular bequests...

Perhaps Giles pulls a few strings somewhere? And gets away with a lot? There's probably some demigod somewhere that he was wound round his little finger. (And school boards too.)

Getting used to something doesn't make it good or less horrific, only less grating in the immediate sense.

The cross that Giles must bear.

Looking at it another way.... it isn't just a horror of computers, it's that he has an advanced case of bibliophilia and the computer craze is another aspect of life that runs counter to that. The more computers are values, the less books may be. Ad he has a particular love of old books. There are no old computers.

Not all other members of staff die on the ep that introduced them.

Well, so far, Mr. Flutie got a few episodes. Otherwise, only Giles and Calendar have survived the episode in which they were introduced. And Giles is a special case. So, extrapolating from evidence, you can see how suprised I am that Calendar isn't a corpse or vampire by now.

16. I liked Giles' ritualistic stuff.
Awww

I suspect you are not really surprised. Doesn't that man have a nice voice?

Rupert is very olfactory-oriented, which I like.

Oooh. Blush. Me too.

(Is this like the Doctor licking things? Characters have their own sense-responses...)

(btw, do you know that in Chinese, 'joss' means 'deity', and by extension, 'luck'?)

Did Whedon plan that from childhood? Is "Joss" short for something? I can't imagine a more... appropriate... name for him. Especially when you think about Firefly and its Chinese connections.

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

The terrible career of Moloch

Random Buffy linkage (this happens a lot with this series) via Life in Cold Blood, the latest David Attenborough natural history series: there is a lizard in Australia that is called the Moloch or thorny devil, despite the fact that it is actually fairly cute (I think). Have a pic (http://www.ryanphotographic.com/Thorny%20Devil.jpg).

Having been inspired to further research by my Christian housemates mentioning Moloch is in the Bible, apparently Moloch was a god with the head of a bull and given a fairly nasty rep by the Bible for having babies scarificed to him. He's also in medieval demonology as a Prince of Hell who steals children and makes mothers weep, and he pops up in Paradise Lost as one of the greatest warriors of the rebel angels, a chief angel of Satan and later becomes a pagan god. Man, I love Wikipedia! And I'm more impressed with the Buffyverse - sometimes their mythology doesn't just come out of nowhere.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Random Buffy linkage (this happens a lot with this series)

It's a variation of the "all things lead to Dunett" dictum that we Dunnett fans have lived with for years. Of course, all things also link to Doctor Who sooner or later, as well.

As for the thorny devil Moloch - aww, yes, he is cute! He looks like a pile of blown autumn leaves, glued together.

I'm more impressed with the Buffyverse - sometimes their mythology doesn't just come out of nowhere.

Marvel comics does that, too. Taking ideas/names/concepts from history and literature. I love it. And the Bible is really good for demons and nastiness. Milton, of course, is good for fallen angels and demons. Dante works well too.

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

Apparently I exceeded the character limit so here's my actualy episode thoughts!

it's a bit of a suspension of disbelief to think that a high school library would be acquiring an occult text from 1460. Not a very realistic idea. Or that Giles himself could be wealthy enough to buy it.

I've always assumed that Giles' collection is being supplied by the Watcher's Council, or at the very least funded by them, in order for him to support his Slayer. I think that the school board doesn't have a clue what kinds of books he's been stocking up.

Giles doesn't like computers? Oh dear.

I think the series as a whole has a bit of an ambivalent attitude to high tech stuff - though Willow does use computers quite a bit.

Buffy becomes the voice of reason. Scary.

I am very fond of the conversation between Buffy and Xander where he points out he could be an elderly Dutch woman online, and they work themselves up to "horrible axe murder by a circus freak".

I also like when Willow and Buffy have the exchange:

Willow: Malcolm said you wouldn't understand.
Buffy: Malcolm was right.

Not quite sure why - just it seems unusually... mature, I suppose, that Buffy doesn't push it and doesn't defensively declare that she does too understand.

Oh, oh, and I love the exchange earlier about:

Buffy: What if you guys get really intense and then you find out he... has a hairy back?
Willow: Well... no. He doesn't talk like the kind of person who has a hairy
back.

like a hairy back is the worst thing ever a person could have!

I like the way they have little examples of Moloch affecting things for the worse at the school, like the guy whose report has become "Nazi Germany is a model of a well-ordered society" and wiping the allergy info from the school nurse's files.

Fritz and Dave are kind of unimpressive

But Fritz carving "Moloch" into his arm while muttering "I'm jacked in, I'm jacked in" was pretty creepy. And Dave I think isn't really meant to be impressive - he is the reluctant one who tries to stop it and I liked him warning Buffy.

I also liked Xander and Giles reassuring her that her hair was okay after the electrocution. And also that Xander got to supply useful information to the gang about the computer place.

Do we meet Ms Calendar again? The pretty techno-pagan?

Uh huh. She gets good dialogue with Giles, doesn't she? I like the bit where they've discovered the blank book and he gets all distracted:

Giles: Well, it was nice talking to you.
Ms Calendar: We were fighting.
Giles: We must do it again sometime. Bye now.

1460 was not the "Dark Ages". Giles would know that. Not that he says it explicitly, and he *is* talking to high school kids.

I liked that scene for the ping-pong between Giles and Buffy on what Moloch could do with computers, and how Giles admits that her example of nuclear weapons was best.

So Willow meets Moloch, and fights back. Way to go, Willow.

Yeah, girl power!

I'm not sure I agree with Giles that knowledge should be smelly. Books are only 'smelly' if they have been mistreated or badly cared for, or left undusted.

But didn't you love his speech? He's such a charmer. And I've got to chime in with other commenters here and say that books do have a scent in a way that computers simply don't - so I'm kind of his side there.

Aww. They just don't know how to cheer up, do they?

*thinks about future developments* *firmly sits on hands to avoid typing spoilers*

I'm also going to chime in with gillo in saying "hurry up" too - I'm 6 episodes ahead of you now and desperately restraining myself from watching School Hard (Spike!) until you catch up a bit!

[ceruleancat.livejournal.com]

I've always assumed that Giles' collection is being supplied by the Watcher's Council, or at the very least funded by them, in order for him to support his Slayer. I think that the school board doesn't have a clue what kinds of books he's been stocking up.

Granted on the council (though I don't remember how much about the council comes up by ep108 - firmly restraining desire to rewatch everything along with Fajrdrako). I always private bequests (to the school or to Rupert personally; he is supposed to have a name in academic circles, after all) would make a good cover should anyone wonder what these books are doing there. One occasionally finds the oddest books in libraries, with a note saying 'donated by' or 'bequethed by'. I've even done that myself - given the library some old books i found near bins in the street.


Buffy: What if you guys get really intense and then you find out he... has a hairy back?
Willow: Well... no. He doesn't talk like the kind of person who has a hairy
back.

LOL! I didn't remember that! I wonder...

Uh huh. She gets good dialogue with Giles, doesn't she? I like the bit where they've discovered the blank book and he gets all distracted...

I liked that scene for the ping-pong between Giles and Buffy on what Moloch could do with computers, and how Giles admits that her example of nuclear weapons was best.

And you picked some of my favorite exchanges. So many good lines. So little time. *sigh*

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Apparently I exceeded the character limit

I do that all the time. They're pretty stingy on the space they give us.

I've always assumed that Giles' collection is being supplied by the Watcher's Council, or at the very least funded by them, in order for him to support his Slayer.

Ah, now, that makes perfect sense. Just as it makes sense that no one else on the faculty or board would even notice. Why should they?

I am very fond of the conversation between Buffy and Xander where he points out he could be an elderly Dutch woman online, and they work themselves up to "horrible axe murder by a circus freak".

Oh, yes, that was quite wonderful! Especially when you add in Xander's phobia about clowns. (See, I can make reference to future stuff, too! Just... on a very small scale. [g])

But Fritz carving "Moloch" into his arm while muttering "I'm jacked in, I'm jacked in" was pretty creepy.

Yeah, but it was low-scale creepier. Would have been creepier if it was someone I felt I knew or cared about. (Xander doing it - now, that would creep me out for sure.)

We must do it again sometime.

Yes, that was adorable.

how Giles admits that her example of nuclear weapons was best.

Generally speaking, I like Giles' attitude to Buffy. Part is the responsibility of a teacher-mentor for a young charge. Part of it is the exasperation of an adult for a teen with a mind of her own. Part of it is personal respect and affection. It's great. I like to think he's secretly feeling a little smug about having acquired the best slayer ever.

*thinks about future developments*

Hee.

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

This is SO. MUCH. FUN. I love seeing the episodes anew through your eyes, though it is different because you have future!knowledge of the series. Try not to get *too* spoiled. And again, I never know if the questions you ask in your posts are rhetorical or demanding answers!

I don't know if The Electric Company aired in Canada, but it was an extremely hip and witty follow-on to Sesame Street in the 70s in America; for those kids who already knew the Sesame stuff (alphabet, counting, basic spelling) but were just learning things like different punctuation marks, dipthongs, why "-ly" makes an adverb, etc. I bring this up because Joss's dad was one of the creators/head-writers on the show, and it clearly informs his sense of humor. And Joss's grandfather (EC writer's dad) wrote for The Dick Van Dyke Show. Each of these men helped shape the intellectual sense of humor of a generation of Americans, and each was well-steeped in the popular culture. "Spider sense" is the very least of what you're in for. :D

(It's a bummer to me that people are giving things like The Watchers' Council" away in the comments, but possibly it bugs me more than you.)

[tzikeh.livejournal.com]

Oh - and don't forget - your next episode is the one where you must watch the end credits. And I'll try to stay on top of your posts in case there are little things like this which you need to know -- things you might normally skip or whatever that you shouldn't. :D

[dargie.livejournal.com]

This is SO. MUCH. FUN.

I was just thinking the same thing. I am getting the biggest charge out of watching her watch these eps, and out of reading the responses of her friends.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

This is SO. MUCH. FUN. I love seeing the episodes anew through your eyes

Good. Makes it all worth it, doing the comentary and all. I feel like such an innocent. That is an unusual feeling for me.

though it is different because you have future!knowledge of the series.

Yes. Some.

I never know if the questions you ask in your posts are rhetorical or demanding answers!

It's safest to consider them all rhetorical. I'll try to make special notation if I mean otherwise.

(It's a bummer to me that people are giving things like The Watchers' Council" away in the comments, but possibly it bugs me more than you.)

It doesn't really bother me because (a) I'd heard of the Watcher's Council and (b) don't know anything about it except that it exists. I'm not sure how much Buffy knows about her own mythology and situation - or how much I'd have learned if I'd seen the movie. They really haven't said much about Giles or his role regarding Buffy - it's implied he's a sort of supernaturally appointed sensei - which is a bit confusing, since her situation is very prosaic and he doesn't seem to be much of a martial artist. So I assume she knows more than we do... er, I mean, more than I do.

If I were Buffy, I'd be peppering him with nonstop questions.

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

people are giving things like The Watchers' Council" away in the comments

*hangs head in shame*

I forgot they hadn't mentioned it yet! *bambi eyes* I thought it had been mentioned at the end of NKABOTFD in the bit about Giles' wanting to be a pilot or whatever - turns out that was just his family.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I have heard of The Electric Company but have never seen it; don't know if it was ever on in Canada.

Sounds as if Joss had a great background for writing - and clearly he has talent. Though TV comedy has never been my thing, on the whole. Marvel comics, on the other hand... Clearly the boy had good, good reading comics.

[walkingowl.livejournal.com]

Heh. Yep, I remember when I, too, had that sudden pang of utter disbelief that a high school library would have any of the volumes that Giles has at his fingertips... keep watching! hee

Jenny Calender is great... and, no, this show does not do things that you are familiar with from other shows, thank goodness. Well, not often!

18: I came to rea- oops. As time passed, the realization occurred to me that Giles is probably comfortably omnisexual. Check out the ring worn on his little finger.

19. Aww, silly, this is only Giles's way of gentle self-deprecation -- he is the long-suffering "responsible adult" who has to keep dealing with the irrepressible Slayer, you know.

Yeah, Jenny will be back. You'll like it.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

As time passed, the realization occurred to me that Giles is probably comfortably omnisexual.

Nice thought. That man just gets better and better.

Check out the ring worn on his little finger.

Will do.

this is only Giles's way of gentle self-deprecation --

That makes perfect sense. Thank you!