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Well... I'm sure everyone who has seen it can guess which part of this episode I liked best. Reactions, reflections and some happy squeeing:
  1. Okay, cutting to the chase, I loved the Jack/Ianto kiss. That is what I've been wanting since "They Keep Killing Suzie". Or maybe since the "sexual harrassment" line. Perfect. Okay, the scene could have gone on longer. But I was happy with it. And Jack and Ianto were happy with each other.... Happy, happy smile. They kissed so nicely, and I loved the way they were touching each other.

    Not only were they snogging, they were talking. And being affectionate. And showing... that they like each other; the whole conversation added up to Jack saying how glad he is to know and love Ianto.


  2. Owen was so snarkless I wasn't sure it was him. He was nice to Toshiko - and protective of her. Is this Owen, or a skrull impostor? He sounded most like himself when he said, "I didn't think you had some weird fetish for defrosted me."


  3. I thought that in Doctor Who, the episodes written by Helen Raynor in series 3 were the worst of the year. She did a much better job here - good characterization and a nice atmosphere, though not as witty or snappy at any point as "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" and not as thoughfully introspective as "Sleeper". The plot was very predictable: was there a moment of surprise in the whole episode? I don't think so. But... I'll forgive a lot for that kiss.


  4. I like Ianto's teapot. Or... Torchwood's teapot. White. A nice shape. Perhaps Toshiko picked it out, she has a nice eye for shapes - you can tell from her home.


  5. I really got a kick out of seeing the things on Jack's desk. Like the embryonic TARDIS, still there. And seeing the Time Agent wristband still on Jack's wrist.


  6. I didn't understand the title. Could someone tell me why it's called "To The Last Man">


  7. Loved the 1918 scenes and the high-tech Torchwood stuff. And seeing the people working for Torchwood at that time. They had cryogenics in 1918? Woo, that's some fancy Rift-flotsam! Or did Jack build it all for them? Seems unlikely that he was at Torchwood then, but...? The box that would only open at the right time was an interesting thing, too.


  8. The relationship between Tommy and Tosh was delightful. Is Toshiko supposed to be the same age as Naoko Mori - 32? I liked the way she felt so conscious of her 'older woman' status with regard to Tommy, while he didn't care. I as glad he got sex with her before he went back to die. And I think Jack approved of that... I couldn't help thinking of his advice to Captain Jack Harkness to "lose yourself in your woman because it might be your last chance".

    This being said, I thought Tommy had a very ordinary personality. Almost dull. No reason he should be extraordinary - but I felt his loneliness and Tosh's compassion rather than any sense of real love or passion between them. Though Tommy's story was very sad, I didn't feel a sense of connection to him.


  9. The fact that he was killed by a firing squad - seemed particulary sad. I loved it that Tosh didn't tell him about that.


  10. It was fun to see Tosh having fun, and nice to know that despite misgivings about the world that she has voiced in the past, she still has her sense of optimism.


  11. The scenes where they were wandering around the hospital looking for ghosts were delightfully spooky. Especially Gwen's scenes.


  12. When Tommy asked Tosh if she had a boyfriend, I really, really wanted her to say, "No, but I had a girlfriend for a while last year. It didn't work out."


  13. I liked Ianto's line "Nothing changes," as a contrast to Jack's "Everything changes." I love the show's perspective of historical time projected both into the future and into the past.


  14. When Jack said to Ianto, "Would you miss me?", was he just fishing? Or was it that he wanted to get Ianto talking about their relationship? He surely knows how Ianto feels about him. But maybe Ianto has been shy about talking about it lately, given his awkwardness in "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang". Are we to assume they've already had their date? Or many dates? I find it difficult to guess the passage of time in this show. How long was Jack gone? How long has he been back? No clue.


  15. In the continued absence of any evidence either way (as far as I can see), I conclude that the other members of the Torchwood team still don't know about the relationship between Jack and Ianto.


  16. I like Tosh's place. Very neat, yes. Very Japanese looking, but vaguely British too. She wasn't wearing that gorgeous dressing gown she had in "Greeks Bearing Gifts".


  17. Was it just me, or was Jack looking particularly good in this episode?


  18. There seem to be a lot of objects in the Hub that look more like art than technology. And there is some very interesting lighting.




Date: 2008-02-01 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
His attitude to the Doctor illustrates this nicely!

I would love to have you expand on this a bit.

By way of example, the most serious personal conversation they ever have happens when there's a huge safety door between them. Jack's in the radiation chamber and the Doctor is safely on the other side of this huge barrier.

Date: 2008-02-01 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
By way of example, the most serious personal conversation they ever have happens when there's a huge safety door between them.

I wasn't so much talking about conversations between Jack and the Doctor, though I think we see more substance in their conversations in the first few minutes of "The Doctor Dances" than we do between Jack and Ianto through all of series 1 Torchwood.

But no, I was talking about attitude. "Utopia" and "The Sound of Drums" are a good examples - eveything Jack is talking about he treats lightly enough, but it's all of hte utmost importance to him and he still shows it - "Why did you abandon me on the Game Station? Is that prejudice? I rebuild Torchwood in your honour." Everything Jack says to the Doctor is honest (since "The Empty Child") and he listens carefully to everything the Doctor says, and never forgets it. It may sound like light banter and mutual teasing in "Boom Town", and it is, but I think it all goes soul-deep.

The door of the radiation chamber in "Utopia" is no doubt a barrier, because the Doctor at that point needs a barrier with Jack. Jack is doing his best to tear down the barriers, and prove himself. How? Well, he teases the Doctor about the situation, flirts with everyone in sight, and when faced with personal danger, starts to take his clothes off.

Works for me.


Date: 2008-02-01 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cionaudha.livejournal.com
I guess I'm interested in your take because while I believe with all my heart that Jack is deeply in love and awe of the Doctor, I've never felt that it was in any way returned. I could almost imagine it with Nine, but not with Ten; but I am oh so willing to be shown the way of truth. :-)


It may sound like light banter and mutual teasing in "Boom Town", and it is, but I think it all goes soul-deep.

Nerrrr, I have to rewatch it. Can't remember.


flirts with everyone in sight, and when faced with personal danger, starts to take his clothes off

That's our boy! Bless.

Date: 2008-02-01 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'm interested in your take because while I believe with all my heart that Jack is deeply in love and awe of the Doctor, I've never felt that it was in any way returned. I could almost imagine it with Nine

I would have trouble believing that it's not the case. Just look at how happy Nine is when he's around. Look at the way he allows him free range with the TARDIS innards. I think that's gotta be love.

I can't prove it: it's a visceral impression. It's what I see in the episodes when they are together.

but not with Ten

I have... problems with that, too, especially ater "The Last of the Time Lords" - which is why I was ranting after that episode aired. (Links to rants available on request.) And a lot of my interpretation prwill depend on what happens when/if they meet again. My interetation as to whether and to what extent Nine and Ten have the same personalities colours my interpretation as well.

I would like to think that Ten loves Jack and Martha too. I can interpret it that way, but I'm on thin canonical grounds.

I do think there's enough canon to establish that Jack is - if not someone that Ten truly loves - a valued and trusted friend. So why did he sabotage the Vortex Manipulator? I have a few theories, but they are just theories - no canon to back them. Yet.

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