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I passed this URL to the King William's College 2007 General Knowledge Paper on to [livejournal.com profile] josanpq and made a print copy for [livejournal.com profile] maaseru (which I must remember to give her) and then it occurred to me that I could post it here for your amusement and enjoyment, if not your edification.

King William's College is a school on the Isle of Man, which has been administering this quiz to students since 1904 - doubt changing the questions every year. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it:
Since 1904, the College has set an annual general knowledge test, known as the General Knowledge Paper (GKP). The pupils sit the test twice; once unseen on the day before the Christmas holidays, and again when they return to school in the New Year, after having spent the holiday researching the answers. However, the test is now voluntary. It is well-known to be highly difficult, a common score being just two correct answers from the list of several hundred. The best scores are 40 to 50 for the unseen test and about 270 out of 360 for the second sitting. Traditionally, the best scorers were given a free half day off school (not of bitter), while anyone doing particularly badly was given a detention.

The quiz is always introduced with the following Latin motto: "Scire ubi aliquid invenire possis, ea demum maxima pars eruditionis est", which translates as: "To know where to find anything is, after all, the greatest part of education."

...Today the GKP is sent home to parents, there being a prize of £100 for the winning family. There is great competition between the local Manx families over this competition.
Every year, a bunch of us on the Dorothy Dunnett e-mail lists work on this. Every year I start out thinking it's hopeless but every year I get... well... some of the answers. I've got more than two on first glance, not having had the chance yet to read the whole thing - that's a great start. A lot of it is British culture that I'm unfamiliar with, but that's no excuse! And I do, after all, have all of the Net at my disposal (not to mention several libraries) for answer-searching. Often the trick is knowing, or guessing, where to look. In a lot of cases, I think, "That's a familiar name...." but the brain goes no further. On the other hand, the question about the master of Thornfield Hall1 is suspiciously easy. Perhaps it's a trick question? Then there's the one about the Lonely Heart's Club Band2 - ridiculously simply. Of course, as with all such things, it's only easy when you know the answers. I think I can guess at 13-2, or at least narrow it down to one of two answers.3

I'll work on this and get back to you, okay? Assistance and encouragement would be gratefully accepted.

~ ~ ~

Edit added later: I'm working on the answers here.

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1 Question 10-3. "Who was the master of Thornfield Hall?" The answer is Mr. Rochester, hero of Jane Eyre. His full name is Edward Fairfax Rochester. It's easy because this is one of my favourite novels of all time and I have large lumps of it memorized.

2 Question 13-1. "Who had a Lonely Heart's Club Band?" The answer is Sgt. Pepper.

3 13-2, "Who hoodwinked Sir Percy at Laragne?" The only Sir Percy I can think of offhand is Sir Percy Blakeney (the Scarlet Pimpernel) which would fit with a French place-name, though I don't specifically remember Laragne from the books. Which means the answer is likely to be his arch-nemesis Chauvelin, though there's an off-chance it could be his wife Margeurite, and an even smaller chance it might be Robespierre - naw. Robespierre never hoodwinked the Pimpernel. It was always the other way round.

Date: 2007-12-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklebutch.livejournal.com
Okay, it took about two questions to get me chin-deep in a whole bunch of new books and articles to read.

Gods bless the internet.

Date: 2007-12-23 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
That is so very true.

Date: 2007-12-22 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wijsgeer.livejournal.com
6.3 waiting for Godot?
14.2 Sint Maarten

only two extra I know without consulting the books. (I think I would have known Mr. Rochester and Sgt. Pepper as well). I'll ask some people and I'll do some searching. Lets see how far we come as a collective

Date: 2007-12-23 01:16 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hmm, it should be easy to do
4-6,10
6-2,4,10
8-2
11-5,9
13-1
14-5
16-3
but even those I'd mostly have to look up. 14-5 is easy, it's in the Caribbean.

Don

Date: 2007-12-23 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Well? Are you going to tell me? [she asks hopefully]

14-5 is: martinique

Date: 2007-12-23 05:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Living near Mt Pelee has been a bad idea on several occasions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pel%C3%A9e

Re: 14-5 is: martinique

Date: 2007-12-23 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Aaah, thank you, you tease. So the answer to 14-5 would be Martinique.

That's quite a dramatic Wikipedia entry.

and:

Date: 2007-12-23 05:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
11-9 who indiscriminately demanded decapitation?

The Red Queen.

6-2 who is remembered for his petrol bomb?

Molotov

6-10 who investigated canine salivation ?

Pavlov (probably)

Re: and:

Date: 2007-12-23 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The Red Queen.

Oh, of course! Of course. I should have seen that. (Her, or all the Immortals in Highlander.)

And Molotov and Pavlov, yes, which might give the patterns of answers for section 6. I find that's a good way of poking at it all - each section has its own type of answer, sometimes sort of obvious, sometimes a case of knowing what the theme means, not just what it is.

Re: and:

Date: 2007-12-23 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
I think that it is the Queen of Hearts rather than the Red Queen - which makes the link throughout that set 'Hearts'

11-1 = A Hole-in-the-heart (Ventricalar Septal Defect)

11-3 = Kind Hearts and Coronets

Re: and:

Date: 2007-12-23 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oh, good, you had 11-1 - I have 11-2 as "The heart of the Matter", 11-4 as 'purple heart", 5 as "Heart of Darkness, 9 as "Queen of Hearts" and 10 as "a plaque on the ground showing a heart".

Re: and:

Date: 2007-12-23 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
11-10. The heart is known as 'The Heart of Midlothian' as in the novel by Scott

11-6 is a quote from 'A Midsummer's Night's Dream' about love-in-idleness - the wild pansy, a flower also known as heartsease

Julia

Re: and:

Date: 2007-12-23 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
11-10. The heart is known as 'The Heart of Midlothian' as in the novel by Scott

That's really very cool.

11-6 is a quote from 'A Midsummer's Night's Dream' about love-in-idleness - the wild pansy, a flower also known as heartsease

Yes, yes, thank you! I was thinking Shakespeare but I got lost in trying to remember Ophelia's herbs, and that was the wrong track entirely.

and

Date: 2007-12-23 07:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
4-10 where was government conducted from a railway siding?

I'm not sure, but I have a strong feeling the answer involves Hitler.

11-5 in what did Marlow describe the corrupt, but charismatic Kurtz ?

This will be Conrad's Heart Of Darkness. So Marlow was in a boat in the Thames Estuary when he spoke his story.

---
Don

Re: and

Date: 2007-12-23 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I have a strong feeling the answer involves Hitler.

Hmm...

Yes, the Heart of Darkness was one I got myself, not from Conrad directly, but because T.S. Eliot quotes "Mistah Kurtz, He Dead" in... damn! .. either "The Wasteland" or "The Hollow Men" - I think the latter.

There are about a dozen I think are on the tip of my tongue - maybe I need to sleep on them? (possibly for a long, long time?)

Martin with a gander as a passenger sounds awfully familiar. So does the doomed octet of D'Ascoynes.

Re: and

Date: 2007-12-23 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
The 'doomed octet of D'Ascoynes' are the victims in the Ealing Comedy 'Kind Hearts and Coronets' where Alec Guinness plays all of them

Julia

Re: and

Date: 2007-12-23 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes - yes! That was one of those things on the tip of my brain that just hadn't reached my consciousness yet. I knew it was something I was familiar with. I love the 'heart' theme in sec.11, but don't have 1, 6, 7 or 8 yet.

Date: 2007-12-22 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
4(i) Isn't that Rourke's Drift, 1879? Made famous in the film Zulu where eleven VC's were awarded in total, 7 going to the 2nd Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire Regiment of Foot.

Date: 2007-12-23 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Cool. I haven't seen Zulu, but it sounds like a fit.

Lovely, lovely icon.

Date: 2007-12-23 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Oh, thanks! I must admit, I do like Bodie's profile. And I've just had a thought that I should try and make an icon out of the two male leads in Zulu, Michael Caine and Stanley Baker, who I've always thought had great slash potential.

Date: 2007-12-23 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Well, then, go for it!

Bodie is just so - photogenic. Expressive. He takes good pictures and he looks good in black and white. I like the way his hair looks here - longish in the back.

Date: 2007-12-23 03:04 am (UTC)
order_of_chaos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] order_of_chaos
2.9 - Hogwarts
4.2 - I could find out by rereading How the Elephant Got Its Trunk by Rudyerd Kipling
8.2 - Captain Hook?
8.7 - Frederick (Pirates of Penzance)

Date: 2007-12-23 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
This is fun - the ones you're picking are mostly the ones I got on my first careful read-through.

Date: 2007-12-23 09:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] order_of_chaos
I'm not surprised - those were the easy ones, after all. *grins* It's great fun! I've been googling, and I've got links to pages with the answers to 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.6, 1.7?, 1.8 and 1.10 so far. The internet knoweth all (well, almost) :-P

Date: 2007-12-23 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yup, the Internet knoweth all, the trick is knowing what we're looking up so we know how to find it.

I have a lot more answers now, either from remembering or guessing, or talking to friends about it. For example, 5-3, "wherein - two legless paupers confined to dustbins?' - [livejournal.com profile] maaseru remembered it was in Samuel Beckett, and that made me realized it must be "End Game". One more down, umpteen to go.

haven't got most of sec. 1, though. Care to share?

Date: 2007-12-23 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I just figured that 1.1 must be Oklahoma, the 46th State of the US. 1.2 - the theft of the crown jewels, 1.3 is Henkel's detergent, 1.4 is Baden-Powell, 1.6 is "Playboy of the Western World", 1.7 is Horace rayner, 1.8 was The Thomas W. Lawson ... I'm on a roll. But 1-9 has me stumped.

Date: 2007-12-23 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
Henkel's detergent is known in the UK as 'Persil' and a soap powder of that name is still a leading brand here

1.2 The Irish Crown Jewels, specifically those of the Order of St Patrick

1.5 is Rudyard Kipling - who won the 1907 Nobel Prize for Literature and called the bhisti Gunga Din 'a better man than I am'

No idea at all on 1.9

Julia

Date: 2007-12-24 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Kipling crops up in a lot of these!

Still working on 1-9...

Date: 2007-12-23 11:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] order_of_chaos
You're stuck on the same one's I'm stuck on, dammit :-D What sections haven't you done yet?

Date: 2007-12-24 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I've done 1 and 2, except 1-9. I've skipped 3 and 4 (except for 4-1 and 4-2). I have most of 5, but not 5-4. Only 3 of sec. 6, but I see the pattern of it. I skipped section 7, have all of 8, none of 9, most of 10 (not 10-6), most of 11 (but not 11-7 or 11-8), haven't even started to look at 12, have about half of 13 and 3.4 of 14, all of 15 but 15-2 and 15-9. I have only 16-8 and 16-9, about half of 17, and none of 18.

Carrying on here.... struggling.... It's like a giant conceptual crossword puzzle.

Date: 2007-12-24 11:00 am (UTC)
order_of_chaos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] order_of_chaos
That's exactly it! And explains my reaction to it too - I've always liked trying the last few words, after mum's got stuck on them.

Turnip Townsend

Date: 2007-12-24 12:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] order_of_chaos
Townshend, I mean. And I think this is the laburnum from 16-2.

Date: 2007-12-24 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thank you - one more checked off.

Date: 2007-12-24 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I've always liked trying the last few words, after mum's got stuck on them.

Every day at work the stage carpenter, Tom, brings in a newspaper, and every day Gord (the Technical Director) and/or Ed (the scenic artist) do the crossword. I don't like actually starting the crossword, or doing the whole thing, but I do love filling in the spaces if they didn't get it all. Or fixing their mistakes, if there are any. It's great fun.

Which is also why I prefer doing a puzzle like this as a community effort, rather than an exercise where I'm on my own.

Thank you for the Turnip Townsend reference!

Date: 2007-12-23 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
1-4 is Robert Baden-Powell (the first Boy Scout camp)

1-6 is 'The Playboy of the Western World'

13-7 is Major General Stanley (the 'modern major-general' for 'The Pirates of Penzance' who can 'quote the fights historical from Marathon to Waterloo...')

I have the answers to several others - including all of section 2 and all of section 12 - do you want all of them in one go or just a few at a time so other people can keep guessing?

Julia - who found you via Josan, but who has been doing the quiz every year for over a decade

Date: 2007-12-23 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oh, good answers! Thank you!

Give me another day or so to ponder and work on it and then I'll be back to you on missing ones. I have figured out most of sectio 5, all but 10 in section 8, most of section 10, about half of 11 and 13, and 14 - it's so much easier when you've guessed or found the theme for each. With the help of some Dunnett friends, I have 4/5 of section 15.

who has been doing the quiz every year for over a decade

Oooh, good for you! an expert! Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] josanpq for sending you over - we were talking about this at her place this morning, which was fun.

Date: 2007-12-23 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
I now have all the hearts and all bar one of sections 1 and 3

Julia

Date: 2007-12-23 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Well done! What are you missing in 1 and 3? - I haven't even started on section 3 yet, though I have most of 1. (Haven't concetrated on 2 yet either.)

Date: 2007-12-23 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
I'm missing 1-9 and 3-7

Section 2 is a very British list - I happened to have read 9 of the books, so it was ridiculously easy for me.
It is an interesting mixture of the classic and the infamous! It may or may not help you to know that the 'hav' in 2-7 is *not* a typo ;-)

It should be fairly easily done via Google

Julia - off to bed

Date: 2007-12-24 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I have all of section 2 now - I've read about half of them, and never heard of the other half.

Date: 2007-12-24 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] research-girl.livejournal.com
Which hadn't you heard of before? I would guess 1,5,8 and 10 (and possibly 7 - though it's a classic here, even with the deliberately awful spelling, and great fun if you're in the right mood to read it)

Julia

Date: 2007-12-24 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
You are quite right as to your guesses about the ones I never heard of, except for 5, though I have seen some of the the Ronald Searle drawings for 7. I have read 2 (many times), 3, 4 (more than once, but probably only twice), 6 and (of course) 9, and I've heard of 5 but haven't read it.

Date: 2007-12-24 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
OMG - I can never resist anything like this....

Date: 2007-12-25 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
As evidenced... neither can I.

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