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From Nov. 23 - and this is sort of complicated:
Joanna and Brad are asking about “connecting words,” and they don’t mean conjunctions like “and” or “but.” No, what they’re looking for are unique, or treasured words that we’ve found out and about in our daily travels, words that might not be common usage, or often heard, but which struck a chord for some reason.
Now, the blog cited is this one and it looks quite fascinating. The way Joanna and Brad pose the question is this:
All you need to do is share with us (and the rest of the blogosphere)
1. A word or words that you’ve learned, read, noticed, been gifted
2. What it means to you
3. Who you got it from
4. Any conversations or connections that followed


Carpe diem. Okay, it's two words, and they aren't even English, but it's my LJ so I can cheat all I want to.

Carpe diem. Sieze the day. I love the concept. Take what opportunities come. Do what you want to, or need to, or can, and do it now. Step into the TARDIS. Write. Lounge. Follow your bliss, wherever it leads.

I've no idea when I first heard the phrase. I was long familiar with it when I re-encountered it in Latin for Canadian Schools as a teen. Perhaps when I was four, tiptoeing to look at the wonderful sundial at the frog pond at the Experimental Farm - for some reason, unremembered now, I associate the phrase with that garden and that age. Perhaps my mother said it to me.

I love it too when people use and abuse the phrase - carpe horam (sieze the hour), carpe canem (grab the dog), carpe pecuniam - go for the money. Or just carpe your chances, buddy!

Now, if I can add an addendum to this... and I can... this brings to mind another whole class of words that I think of as Dunnett words, meaning they are words I first encountered in the Dunnett novels. "Otiose" is a good example of this. It means "useless". I love the word. I found it in The Disorderly Knights, where a hard-drinking pirate calls Lymond "dead cold sober to the point of otiosity". I love it when a pirate talks like that.

Date: 2007-11-23 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
... I always rather liked the concept of carpe noctem.

Date: 2007-11-23 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The concept is fun to comtemplate.

Date: 2007-11-23 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Must be the inner vampire in you.

(Or maybe you've met Captain Jack Harkness - ?)

Date: 2007-11-23 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I think it's just got an awful lot to do with me not being a morning person at all. I like nights so much better. Shame that society restricts my nocturnal activities *whines*

(I wish. I do, really. But, no. Unfortuntately, I haven't.)

Date: 2007-11-23 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
I always thought of "idle" as the primary meaning of "otiose"; it's from "otium" – leisure, idleness.

I like the phrase "joi e deport" – joy and delight/pleasure. I want more of both in life.

Date: 2007-11-23 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, or simply pointless.

"joi de deport" is wonderful.

I also like the Italian 'ben trovato'.

Date: 2007-11-23 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gryphons-lair.livejournal.com
Um, is that last sentence supposed to break off in the middle?

On my screen, it ends: Lymond "dead cold sober to the point of o

Date: 2007-11-23 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I was robbed!

No, it was not supposed to break off in the middle. When I write it, it had a beginning, a middle, and an end, just like all good sentences should have. Then half of it went and wandered away into another dimension or something.

Now fixed.

Thanks for pointing it out. (Last time I looked, it was there, I swear!)

Date: 2007-11-23 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gryphons-lair.livejournal.com
*rereads* Yes, that makes a lot more sense. And I like pirates who use elaborate verbiage, too!

I was halfway through my first comment when it occurred to me that you just might have done it deliberately-- a sentence that breaks off mid-word illustrating the concept of "useless".

That's the sort of subtle joke that usually flies right by me. :-)

Date: 2007-11-23 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Your icon. Woooeee! That's an eyecatcher. (My Captain Jack greets your Captain Jack and offers rum. With a smile.)

Yes, there's something about an eloquant pirate.

I might have done that to be stylistically clever... but really, I'm not so subtle. Except maybe once a millennium on a blue moon in February.

Date: 2007-11-23 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gryphons-lair.livejournal.com
Thank you, I'm rather fond of that version of Cap'n Sparrow myself. I'd credit the maker if I could remember who she was.

Carpe diem

Date: 2007-11-23 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I love the connection with step into the TARDIS... because then anything is possible

Thanks for joining in, and making the connection

Joanna

Re: Carpe diem

Date: 2007-11-23 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thanks for commenting! The idea was fun.

Date: 2007-11-23 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maaseru.livejournal.com
Carpe diem has been my personal motto for at least 30 years, so it's got to be my favourite.

But seeing otiose reminds me that it used to be used often, I think in the 60s, and one hardly ever sees it nowadays. Same as sedulous, which used to be a fave and I haven't even thought of that word for years until it turned up recently in one of the early Donald Strachey mysteries. As Stevenson is roughly the same age as me, it looks like he was using it when I was using it, and it's not in his recent novels.

My Chambers provides a phrase every few years, and I imagine it is reproaching me when it falls open to the page with grex venalium. But I'm doing the best I can! I tell it, though I think it doesn't believe me and that page keeps coming up when least expected. Told off by my own dictionary - how wimpy is that?

Date: 2007-11-23 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
A dictionary that talks back to you editorially! That's downright uppity of it. You need a Dictionary Whisperer to teach you how to teach it to behave - offering the right words, choice words, on command.

Dorothy Dunnett would have used the word 'otiose' about 1965, I think.
Funny how words have cycles and fashions. And yes, I noticed sedulous in Stevenson too - don't know when I've last seen it, and it's a great word that I'd pretty much forgotten about.

Off topic but following your lead

Date: 2007-11-24 04:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brashley46.livejournal.com
Okay, gots three phrases in Latin: first, from Cabell, the motto of the mythical mediaeval realm of Poictesme: Mundus vult decipi, the world wishes to be deceived.
The second, from Heinlein, Dum vivimus, vivamus!
Since we must live, let us live!
Third, the motto of Clan Ross: Spem successus alit, success nourishes hope.

Re: Off topic but following your lead

Date: 2007-11-28 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
"Mundus vult decipi" is a great one. This seques into the wonderful topic of good mottos and how they are used.

"Dum vivimus, vivamus" is from the classical world - believed to be the motto of the Epicureans. It's a nice one.

Now I want to make a whole list of good mottos!

Date: 2007-11-24 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wijsgeer.livejournal.com
desalnietemin

My dictionary says nevertheless, nonetheless but I like the Dutch better. It has a slightly archaic and formal ring to it. I see it popping up after objections are raised to a plan, nevertheless I am sticking to my intentions!

Date: 2007-11-24 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
What a great word!

Personally I like using both 'nevertheless' and 'nonetheless' in English, in conversation, and stop myself, scolding myself because it sounds pedantic - but it also sounds so cool.

So I use it anyway - nonetheless.

Date: 2007-11-26 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncanmac.livejournal.com
I too enjoy "nevertheless" ... along with "irregardless" (which other people do not like).

I've also made up words at times. A recent example (which I added to Wiktionary's list of really new words (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:List_of_protologisms) [near the end]) is 'villianfoil', the act of wrapping a villian or criminal in sheets of aluminum, forcing him to exclaim "Curses, foiled again". :-)

Date: 2007-11-26 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
"irregardless" (which other people do not like)

The objection is usually that it's a redundant word - that it means the same as "regardless". Why do you like it?

Date: 2007-11-26 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
"Curses, foiled again".

I don't get it. How does this make 'villainfoil' a word?

Date: 2007-11-27 01:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Isn't "carpe diem" when you nag your gaming referee? [weg]

Date: 2007-11-27 07:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
D. M. is short for Dungeon Master, also known as Story-Teller, Referee, or Gamesmaster, depending on your choice of role-playing style.

Date: 2007-11-27 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Working it through... Carpe D.M.... okay, I sort of get it now.

(Biiig sigh.) I'm clueless with puns at the best of times and I never played with a D.M.!

(P.S. I think actually that's a lie. I have a dim memory of trying out a D&D game at my apartment about 28 years ago. Very dim. Not so heavy on the 'memory' bit. There were elves, and monsters, and dice.)


Date: 2007-11-28 12:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Our gaming groups usually had a bit of a conflict. I wanted to create interesting characters with complex motivations, usually over several generations. My friends wanted to kill things. ;)

Date: 2007-11-28 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Funny, that scenario sounds a lot like real life.

I suppose there are some gamers who do both!

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