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One of my favourite things is John Barrowman, and another favourite thing is the music of Cole Porter, so put them together and I'm very happy indeed. And I often listen to John Barrowman's CD of Cole Porter songs with joy and delight.

Maybe too much. For the past twenty-four hours I can't get MYou're the Top out of my head. It is, as the French would say, de trop.

At least I know now that I know all the lyrics.

Gotta find something to listen to that will put this out of my head....

Re: Red bicycle... second wheel

Date: 2007-11-23 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com

I could have rationalized all of the above, until the Doctor broke the Vortex Manipulator and trapped Jack on 21st century Earth, which he had no right to do - and the reason he gave implied insult and/or punishment when Jack had done so much for him, and heroically.

Bottom line: the Doctor fell from the pedestal I had him on, and failed to appreciate Jack or Martha. I like a dysfunctional hero, but I like a show to be clearly heroic, and the way the Doctor was venerated on the one hand, and equated with the Master on the other, discomforted me.

Basically, now, I can't reconcile my Jack/Doctor love with what happened in that episode, so I'm left with a paradox, an insoluble dilemma - which may be resolved in the show next season. I hope so. I'd be happy with very little. A smile and a hug would do it.

Meanwhile, I deal with it by separating Nine and Ten in my mind as separate entities. Nine was wonderful, dangerous, foolish and wise; he loved Jack and Rose. Ten is wonderful, dangerous, foolish, and random: his ability to love is broken.

Hmm. This was not brief. I hope it was coherent.

Date: 2007-11-23 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
That was coherent and it made quite a lot of sense, too. I agree with pretty much every argument you have against the Doctor.

Only, I never saw the Doctor as the protector of the earth or anything. To me, he only ever was a character, loveable and crazy and alien and dark, all those things. Ten added dysfunctional to it in ways that Nine didn't, but that only adds to my love for him 'cause I like dysfunctional. I really do.

I think the difference is that I only very recently got into this fandom at all and I watched a large number of episodes in a very short period of time and only after I started designing a picture of the Doctor in my mind.

So the way I see the Doctor? Combines all these things and therefore, I don't have a problem to reconcile anything. His relationship with Jack is broken and dysfunctional, as is the Doctor in general. He's wonderful and foolish and funny, but he's also very, very broken.

.. Does that make sense?

I really need a Doctor!icon... >_> I need more icon space. Meh.

Date: 2007-11-23 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I like dysfunctional, on the whole - and I love some of the Doctors dysfunctional and dark moments. I love his line in "School Reunion" that he used to have so much mercy. That gives me chills even to remember it! Great moment. I love the line about him being fire and ice and rage. I just don't like it at the end of TLOTTL, when it's shattering the relationships I wanted to much!

And yes, I'm trying to see it as broken but continuous.... So far I haven't put the picture together in a way that works for me, but I think it will come - depending what they so in season 4. Or, of course, beyond.

I know also that what I want to see (i.e., more relationshippy stuff between Jack and the Doctor and Martha and the Doctor) isn't necessarily what other fans want to see. Because I have a pash for the Doctor myself, I want to see it vicariously gratified through them. I want them to pander to my love of Jack/Doctor slashiness - functional, dysfunctional, or otherwise.

Doctor icons are wonderful things, but Jack icons are even better.

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