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Yes, whenever I do watch shows like that, I regret it. Especially when it's all about celebrities who are totally unfamiliar to me. Sad thing is, I'm just as unfamiliar with all the people on the equivalent Canadian shows.

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Ugh, I hate those shows. Nothing I like ever wins, it's 99.5% about rewarding non-daring conventional wisdom, and who needs to see the Hollywood bigwigs rewarding themselves, yet once again, for being special. [Though the dresses are real purty.]

That said, I finally watched most of The Departed, which won an oscar for something, I believe best director, maybe something else as well. I had avoided it because of the hype, but it's been on Showtime recently, so I turned in on (at various point - unfortunately never from the absolute beginning, and never all the way through) but it turns out to be a pretty good movie. Some excellent directorial work. Did you see it?

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No, I never even heard of "The Departed" - don't know if it was on the Canadian stations or not. What is it?

rewarding non-daring conventional wisdom

So true! And the innovative shows don't get awards till they've been on the air for years, or cancelled, and aren't new any more.

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Oh, The Departed (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/) was a big movie last year. It's about the mob and Boston and crooked cops and straight-up undercover cops.

Though I lived in Boston for years, I have no idea whether any of that kind of thing has a kernal of truth to it. Though I suppose I lived in more of a New York community in exile than a real, homegrown Boston one.

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If I ever heard of it (and I probably did), I probably just dismissed it as a gangster movie - I don't tend to go to them, and the last one I saw, I disliked intensely. (Goodfellas - no, not something recent.) I did like the first Godfather movie but I haven't got around to see the sequels yet.

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I don't go to the either. I just dismissed it as a conventional wisdom Oscar pick. And I tend to dislike them intensely as well.

But I think that this one has some genuinely decent performances. And some very interesting camera work.

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It's great to see an exeption to the rule - especially when the "Oscar winners tend to be bad movies" rule is rather dispiriting.

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Sadly, I adore awards shows. Yes, I am at least ashamed of myself. But getting to see John Stewart and Stephen Colbert spontaneously award Steve Carrel the award for best actor in a comedy series because the real winner, Rick Gervais, wasn't there (and because "Steve Carrel is our friend!") was worth the price of having to sit through the insipid host the Emmys had this year.

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That would all make more sense to me if I knew who you were talking about! I believe I have seen John Stewart and Stephen Colbert, those days when

maaboroshi says, "You must see this!" and then shows me something both absurd and funny that usually goes in one ear and out the other, but is entertaining for the moment. I wouldn't recognize either of them if I saw them again, though.

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I was gonna find the clip on youtube.com and post the URL saying "You must see this!" like

maaboroshi does*, but there's very little Emmy 2007 stuff up just yet. Give it a few more hours. ;)

*Just to be silly & obnoxious!

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Oh just read this comment AFTER I commented :)

I want to know when it's available, lol!!

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http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/09/17/colbert-carell-stewart-hug/

There it is! Or, there they are!

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THANK YOU!! :D

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Okay - I wait with moderate patience!

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Patience rewarded:

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/09/17/colbert-carell-stewart-hug/

A skit and then the hug-out.

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"But getting to see John Stewart and Stephen Colbert spontaneously award Steve Carrel the award for best actor in a comedy series because the real winner, Rick Gervais, wasn't there (and because "Steve Carrel is our friend!") was worth the price of having to sit through the insipid host the Emmys had this year."

Do you know if this is on you tube?? I REALLY need to watch this over and over again. I love them all. :)

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So - who are these people?

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All comedians. John Stewart hosts The Daily Show (an American news spoof), Stephen Colbert does the same, Ricky Gervais is a British comedian who starred in the original The Office (British) and now stars in Extras (I haven't seen this but saw on youtube an episode with Daniel Radcliffe). Stever Carrel stars in the American The Office!

I'm a fan of The Office (both British and American) and the Daily Show; that's how I know them. :)

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Thanks for explaining!

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I'm pleased that America Ferrera won for best comedy actress; I wish Ugly Betty had won best comedy. I almost never watch award shows, because, oh, look!--I can get the list of who won *and* vid clips of them winning the next day or so online. Why sit through 3 hours of boredom? :-)

Especially after two years of torture, sitting through the Oscars for LOTR, only to be disappointed. *groan* (Yes, she *can* learn from her mistakes!)

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Heaven forbid the Emmys get any longer, but it never seems right to me when 1-hour long shows like Ugly Betty, Monk, and Entourage go up against wee little traditional sit-coms like 30 Rock. It seems to me that these are two very different styles of show and each deserves its own category and award!

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I don't know Entourage. I've seen Monk. I didn't know Ugly Betty was a comedy (though I think I might have been told that). What's 30 Rock? What's the difference in the types of shows?

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Entourage is an hour-long comedy-drama on HBO with lotsa sex and I'm guessing foul language -- so they can do that frat-boy humor that goes over so well with the young male demographic. I've never seen Ugly Betty, but what little I've seen seems to be along the lines of Boston Legal (a show about a law firm) except it's about a fashion magazine. Except Boston Legal is somehow considered a drama, and Ugly Betty and Monk are considered comedies. I actually think Boston Legal is far funnier & loopier than something like, say, Monk (considered in the Comedy category), because things happen that are really outside of what could possibly happen in real life. It's quite over-the-top wacky sometimes. But it's considered a drama!

30 Rock is about a group of crazy people putting on a weekly live show a lot like Saturday Night Live. It's set at 30 Rockefellar Plaza in NYC, where NBC is located. It gets a half-hour to tell its story. If Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, which was about a group of crazy people putting on a weekly live show a lot like Saturday Night Live (but in L.A.), had not been canceled, 30 Rock could have been directly competing in a category with them as a Comedy Show, despite Studio 60 having more money, bigger-name stars, and more time to film their show. It just strikes me as not commensurate!

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