"I think he was trying to prove himself to the Doctor, back in Doctor Who series 1, and probably in Torchwood series 1 too. I think this shows him growing a little beyond that."
Good point. I forgot this one.
"I would settle for so little: a thank-you kiss would make all the difference!"
Exactly my thoughts!
"I still believe that the basic emotional nature of both Jack and the Doctor is consistency and growth, not ephemerality and loss, however they might struggle to leave the past behind."
Well, I believe love isn't something that one can grow out of. One can grow out of passion, but not love, not affection. Love is the phoenix reborning in the fire which has formerly destroyed it, time after time. (Isn't that also the image of a Time Lord's regeneration?) At least I hope so:)
"Perhaps RTD felt that alleviating or removing Jack's preoccupation with the Doctor would free things up for him to interact more fully (or more sexually) with characters in Torchwood."
That's possible. I still miss the Jack/Jack pairing: dance, soulmate, old-fashioned romance, that kind of thing. Also Jack/Ianto fangirls must have been very satisfied with the emotional side of the DW finale. I wonder what flavors we'll get for the second series.
"Thanks for listening; talking this through helps a lot."
You're welcome:) This conversation helps me a lot, too.
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timeasmymeasure
Re: Part 2 reply: Jack and the Doctor
Date: 2007-07-18 10:01 pm (UTC)Good point. I forgot this one.
"I would settle for so little: a thank-you kiss would make all the difference!"
Exactly my thoughts!
"I still believe that the basic emotional nature of both Jack and the Doctor is consistency and growth, not ephemerality and loss, however they might struggle to leave the past behind."
Well, I believe love isn't something that one can grow out of. One can grow out of passion, but not love, not affection. Love is the phoenix reborning in the fire which has formerly destroyed it, time after time. (Isn't that also the image of a Time Lord's regeneration?) At least I hope so:)
"Perhaps RTD felt that alleviating or removing Jack's preoccupation with the Doctor would free things up for him to interact more fully (or more sexually) with characters in Torchwood."
That's possible. I still miss the Jack/Jack pairing: dance, soulmate, old-fashioned romance, that kind of thing. Also Jack/Ianto fangirls must have been very satisfied with the emotional side of the DW finale. I wonder what flavors we'll get for the second series.
"Thanks for listening; talking this through helps a lot."
You're welcome:) This conversation helps me a lot, too.