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I saw Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End this afternoon. Loved it.

I am now in love with Elizabeth Swann.



The movie was too long, making the overall pacing of the three Pirates of the Caribbean most odd. The first was fine as a stand-along thing; the second was slight and immaterial; the third too packed with action and information. We couldn't have done without the second movie, since so much of it was set-up for the third, but couldn't they have paced it better?

No matter, really. I loved the way they handled the characters. I loved the way they surprised me. I loved the way they made me laugh out loud with clever lines.

The three things I most loved about it (besides Elizabeth Swann):

1. The scene with Keith Richards.
2. The very end, after the credits, ten years later.
3. The fact that Elizabeth Swann became the Pirate King.

Three things I didn't like so much:
1. We should have had more of Norrington. He was my favourite character (besides Sparrow) in the first two movies.
2. Not much focus on Sparrow.
3. I couldn't understand a word that Tia Dalma said. I loved it, though, when they called her "Kali-pso", though I suspect it was just an accident of pronunciation and not a reference to Kali.


Date: 2007-06-04 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acampbell.livejournal.com
I enjoyed it. I was wondering if you'd seen it yet!

I felt sorry for the Norrington fans; he died so quickly.

I couldn't understand 85% of the dialogue in the movie. When Leah buys the DVDs, I'm watching with subtitles.

Date: 2007-06-04 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I was wondering if you'd seen it yet!

Just this afternoon. It took me this long to find the time.

I felt sorry for the Norrington fans; he died so quickly.

Yes, exactly, and as something of an anticlimax.

I couldn't understand 85% of the dialogue in the movie. When Leah buys the DVDs, I'm watching with subtitles.

Me too! I know there's a lot I missed. Some of it, I caught on double-takes.

Date: 2007-06-04 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
My favorite aspect of this movie was the interplay between Barbosa and Sparrow. Much of it in this movie and so much fun.

Date: 2007-06-04 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
interplay between Barbosa and Sparrow

Yes, wasn't that great? Barbosa was such fun.

Date: 2007-06-04 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atheneunknown.livejournal.com
I enjoyed the movie a whole lot...And I grew, finally, to like the character of Will Turner.

That character annoyed the crap out of me in the firs two movies for some reason, but once he became the owner of that ship, he redeemed himself to me somehow.

Captain Jack Sparrow is amusing, especially when he was loosing his mind.

And Norringtons death was what I expected of him, that character was goregous, and they did what they should with him, though I'd have liked more screentime for the character in this film. Scruffy Norrington in the second film more then made up for the lack of him in this one.

Loved these movies, and I'm silently hoping they make more.

Date: 2007-06-04 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I grew, finally, to like the character of Will Turner.

So did I. By the end, I really liked him, and I liked his heroic act in (essentially) sacrificing himself for his father's sake. But he never quite achieved the kind of unusual noteworthiness that I saw in Sparrow, Norrington and Elizabeth

I loved the final moments of Cutler Becket.

Sparrow was exceptionally amusing, and fun whenever we saw him, but not really a central focus. I thought he would have a more structured story arc - like Will Turner ended up having - but no; he was one colourful character among many. Which is all right, just not quite what I expected, when he'd had a lot of focus in the previous movies.

Scruffy Norrington in the second film more then made up for the lack of him in this one.

Scruffy Norrington was the best thing about the second movie.

I'm silently hoping they make more.

Me too. I see no reason why they wouldn't.


Date: 2007-06-04 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com
1. We should have had more of Norrington. He was my favourite character (besides Sparrow) in the first two movies.

I was beginning to think I was the only one. *weeps for poor Norry*

Date: 2007-06-04 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Really, an ignominious end to his career - I'd hoped he had another trick or two up his sleeve. I wanted something better.

Date: 2007-06-04 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raissad.livejournal.com
Damn! I left the theater before Ten Years Later. What did I miss? I loved it, too. The pacing stank to high heaven, but I loved the character development.

Date: 2007-06-04 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The pacing stank to high heaven, but I loved the character development.

That sums it up rather nicely.

After the credits, ten years later, Elizabeth stands on the cliff with her nine year old son to see Will Turner sail away again.

Date: 2007-06-04 08:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kathyh
I really enjoyed it too, but I agree it was too long and there should have been more Norrington, though he did meet an ending I thought was fitting for the character.

I've seen it twice now and Tia Dalma's dialogue is a lot clearer second time around!

Date: 2007-06-04 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I noticed with the first movie that I couldn't understand Tia Dalma first time I saw it, and had no problem with the second time.

I do love Norrington, even if we didn't see enough of him in the end.

Date: 2007-06-04 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com
I finally *like* Elizabeth Swann. She has become an adult, caring person at last, instead of a spoiled child desperate to get her way. In the first two, she seemed to be claiming to love Will but actually just loving the image she wanted to mold him into
(sorry for the grammar - I tried wording it two or three ways, and it didn't come out any better).


I didn't have any trouble understanding Tia Dalma, or anybody else really. I wear earplugs in movies but they don't interfere with my hearing. On the other
hand, I have an easier time with dialects and accents than some people do.

A friend of a friend remarked that Sparrow was showing a number of the signs
of end-stage syphillis - a scar that didn't heal, the strange gait, the
hallucinations. An interesting perspective.

Date: 2007-06-04 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I agree with all your comments about Elizabeth Swann. She has become an interesting person. I loved it that in the end, though she and Will loved each other - and wasn't that the wildest wedding scene ever? - they each had their own life and their own agenda and no bones about it.

I have an easier time with dialects and accents than some people do.

While I am not good with them at all. Put me in a real-life situation with strange accents around me, and my ear with start to automatically understand those around me in about three days. The length of a movie isn't time enough. It varies, of course, depending on my familiarity with the dialect or accent - and I've never met anyone who talks like Tia Dalma.

Re syphilis: I've heard this before - I think it was in an interview with Johnny Depp. He mentioned it. I figured that when he mentioned it, he was working on "The Libertine", and that was why he thought of it.


Date: 2007-06-05 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com
Naomie Harris's mother was originally from Jamaica, and it makes sense that a Caribbean flavor was what she was going for.
Sometimes it's almost as though I can hear a simultaneous translation from English to English inside my head while I'm dealing with accents or vocabulary items.

Date: 2007-06-05 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'm just really bad with accents, especially those I'm unfamiliar with. Probably when I see the movie a few times I'll suddenly start to understand her - that's what happened with "Dead Man's Chest".

Actually, a lot of the dialogue gave me trouble: most of it accented, and very fast. Not enough that I couldn't follow the whole thing, but enough that I bet I missed a few good jokes.

<b>At World's End</b>

Date: 2007-06-13 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renka54.livejournal.com
Oh I'm so glad you finally saw it! I loved this movie; it's my favorite of the three. Didn't feel it was too long at all.

Things do become much clearer the second time through, and by the third time I felt pretty sure I had caught all of the dialogue. I expect I'll see it 2 or 3 more times at the theater.

Funny thing is, I watched POTC 1 and 2 the other day while I was ironing, and now that I've seen 3, the second one becomes a better film. It's still the weakest of the three, but I like it much more as a lead-in to the third than I did last summer.

Re: <b>At World's End</b>

Date: 2007-06-13 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I loved this movie; it's my favorite of the three.

I really think it was the best of the three. It had the most interesting story, and the best character development - except for Norrington. And his role wasn't bad, just wasn't focussed on - when they had so much else to do.

It was so delightfully substantial! Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing it again, too. I suspect I'll get more of the dialogue each time.

The second movie really did have material that came to mean more after you'd seen the third movie - so it doesn't stand on its own so well but as a prequel to 3 it's terrific.

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