So very true about Ianto chose Jack because he's a contrast of Lisa.
When we first met Jack in Empty Child/Doctor Dances, he's a man who cleans his own mess. And after 'Cyberwoman', Ianto turns out to be his biggest mess. So he cleans it in his own way, his only way--sex is somewhere he feels very safe, and something he feels confident enough to give and take. If by doing this he has created a new problem is another problem...Torchwood should have a motto like 'one mess-up only each day'...
I'd say 9th Doctor/Jack seems far more equal and better balanced than Jack/Ianto. Alongside the Doctor, DW!Jack is an experienced/exotic/morally ambiguous/hard figure himself. He's learning to be a hero, yes, but he has already got all the means that a hero needs in himself. And Rose definitely makes their powers balance better. The 9th Doctor values DW!Jack's courage and sense of humor and joie de vivre just like they should be valued, I believe. (And Jack's always a part of what makes the 9th octor human and whole, just like Rose.) Only he doesn't need these. The Doctor himself has courage, and a good sense of humor, and enough joie de vivre. What he has lost forever and therefore he needs, is the innocence. Rose is the innocence. That's why she's his fascination, his mascot, until the very end. Jack is too much a soldier for him, a lieutenant or an aide de camp at most. He has too much in common with Jack to really care about Jack, because the 9th Doctor doesn't care much about himself, which we have already seen in 'Father's Day'. Interesting that in DW I always identify with the Doctor and in TW I always identify with Jack. I who have hardly identified with any heroes before...
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Re: Part 1
Date: 2007-02-28 03:57 am (UTC)When we first met Jack in Empty Child/Doctor Dances, he's a man who cleans his own mess. And after 'Cyberwoman', Ianto turns out to be his biggest mess. So he cleans it in his own way, his only way--sex is somewhere he feels very safe, and something he feels confident enough to give and take. If by doing this he has created a new problem is another problem...Torchwood should have a motto like 'one mess-up only each day'...
I'd say 9th Doctor/Jack seems far more equal and better balanced than Jack/Ianto. Alongside the Doctor, DW!Jack is an experienced/exotic/morally ambiguous/hard figure himself. He's learning to be a hero, yes, but he has already got all the means that a hero needs in himself. And Rose definitely makes their powers balance better.
The 9th Doctor values DW!Jack's courage and sense of humor and joie de vivre just like they should be valued, I believe. (And Jack's always a part of what makes the 9th octor human and whole, just like Rose.) Only he doesn't need these. The Doctor himself has courage, and a good sense of humor, and enough joie de vivre. What he has lost forever and therefore he needs, is the innocence. Rose is the innocence. That's why she's his fascination, his mascot, until the very end.
Jack is too much a soldier for him, a lieutenant or an aide de camp at most. He has too much in common with Jack to really care about Jack, because the 9th Doctor doesn't care much about himself, which we have already seen in 'Father's Day'.
Interesting that in DW I always identify with the Doctor and in TW I always identify with Jack. I who have hardly identified with any heroes before...