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As you might guess if you know me, I've been reading a lot of Torchwood and Doctor Who fanfic lately. I figure it's time to make a few recommendations. As usual, there are many stories who read as if they were written by teenagers without much life experience, or people who don't know how to use an apostrophe, and stories that just don't have the punch they might have. I find that Doctor Who fandom is rather too full of gen stories, and with Torchwood we need a few more episodes under our belts before we can really get to the substantial, meaty characterization.

This being said, here are stories I think are worthy of recommendation:

Torchwood
Employee Benefits (or, Personnel for Dummies) by [livejournal.com profile] mimarie. [R] Jack/Owen. A story that helped me to understand Owen Harper, whom I normally just don't get.

Hub Games by [livejournal.com profile] cyberamanda. [R] Jack/Ianto. [NC-17] Just... charming.

Five Ways Ianto Jones Said Sorry by [livejournal.com profile] sage_theory. [PG] With the caveat that I'm somewhat tired of "five ways" stories, this had good characterisation.

Salvaging Surrender by [livejournal.com profile] boji. [PG] [livejournal.com profile] boji's best work so far is Blogging On, but this is a nice character study.

Doctor/Jack
The Beautiful Simplicity of Motion by [livejournal.com profile] nostalga_lj. [R] A story greater than the sum of its parts, with the advantage of being my favourite pairing.

Doctor/Rose
Perversions by [livejournal.com profile] regala_electra. [NC-17] Not perverted really, sorry. Actually kind of tame. But this is one of the few stories I have seen that in my judgement gets the Doctor's sexuality right - he isn't inhibited or shy, and he certainly isn't asexual; he approaches sex with the same enthusiastic curiosity as he does everything else. What this story lacks in structure, it makes up for in spirit.

Five Things the TARDIS Understood about Rose Tyler (and One She Didn't About the Doctor by [livejournal.com profile] misscam. [PG] A nice alien look at Rose.

What, is that all? I'll have to look harder.

Date: 2006-11-20 02:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
As much as I hate to admit it, Ive been devouring any and all Jack/Gwen fics I can find.

Got any recs toward that end? :)

Date: 2006-11-20 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Ive been devouring any and all Jack/Gwen fics I can find.

I'm looking for such. If I find any, I'll tell you. If you find any, tell me.

I may have to write my own!

Date: 2006-11-20 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
Ive found a few...... lemme dig.......

Note, these are all WIP's and all adult rated. :D

I liked this one (http://www.whofic.com/series.php?seriesid=296) so far, but Im not horribly keen on how they paint Rhys. I don't get the feeling he's an insensitive jerk from the series, so much as he's just clueless.

this one (http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=8707&warning=NC-17) was good, and IIRC, the only thing that bugged me was the ocassional misuse of the word "defiantely". :)

Truth in Time (http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=8651&warning=Adult) - no noteable grammar mistakes or anything like that, that I noticed.

And that's what I have so far. Pretty paltry, eh?

Date: 2006-11-20 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction.

Why there isn't more - lots and lots of it - I can't imagine!

Date: 2006-11-20 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
I agree!

We want smut! Lots and lots of smut!

Gun pr0n smut! And um..... well, just smut! :D

Date: 2006-11-20 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Uh-huh. Gwen and Jack are so sexy together - ! We need stories about them! Dramatically hot stories! Steamy sex and angst and explosive desire! So where is it?

Date: 2006-11-20 03:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
Damned if I know!

I think people are so into the whole Jack/Ianto slash love that they're overlooking Jack/Gwen.

I'm not sure why that pairing has really taken hold of me, since Im usually all about the slash and up till now I've been all about the Jack/Doctor/Rose OT3, but I rather like Jack and Gwen together.

Y'know, I don't even think there's a Jack/Gwen LJ group.

Which actually reminds me I should do some more pimping for [livejournal.com profile] mydailyjack

Date: 2006-11-20 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I think people are so into the whole Jack/Ianto slash love that they're overlooking Jack/Gwen.

Though Jack/Ianto is kind of fun, it doesn't seem nearly as exciting to me, and it doesn't lead much of anywhere that I can see. Not yet, anyway.

Or if I may be really blunt, I think Gwen and Jack are both incredibly sexy and I don't think Ianto is.

I'm usually all about the slash

Well, yes, me too. Usually. I was pondering that this afternoon as I washed dishes. To my mind, Jack's major love was the Doctor and Rose - and that still has a strong hold on his psyche. But Jack is affectionate, highly sexed, and coping with life in the present as it is, not as he'd like to be. And as I see it, the really hot relationship going in his life right now is with Gwen. (Yes, he kissed Ianto, but I'm still reserving judgement on that. His non-kissing of Gwen remains hotter and more interesting. And she kissed him, and she's the one he confides in and trusts as he does no one else.)

You can pair Jack with anybody, but compared to his sparky friendship with Gwen, being all over her in the gun room - and didn't that make them both giddy with joy? - I don't anything nearly as interesting as his relationship with Gwen.

up till now I've been all about the Jack/Doctor/Rose OT3, but I rather like Jack and Gwen together.

There are enough polyamorous angles going on here, I don't feel I'm abandoning Jack/Doctor/Rose if I go for Jack/Gwen. We still don't know where the canon will take us.

Which actually reminds me I should do some more pimping for [livejournal.com profile] mydailyjack

Yes, by all means! I was forgetting about it. It would be fun to see loads and loads of pictures of Captain Jack Harkness there. Really.


Date: 2006-11-20 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
There is a Jack/Gwen LJ group, I tracked it down: [livejournal.com profile] absolutly_brill.

Date: 2006-11-20 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
Looks like its fairly active, too!

Oh I love you!!

Can I have your children now, please? :D

And I agree with your Jack/Gwen and Jack/Doctor/Rose statements. Really I think as I said before, I need to manip a OT4 icon. :D Or really actually, a OT5 icon (9/10/Jack/Rose/Gwen) :D

Im just not really feeling the whole Jack/Ianto thing personally. I didn't see the kiss as a kiss but more as a sort of alien-like mouth to mouth recussitation thing.

I'll try to get on posting some Jack pics tomm.

Date: 2006-11-20 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Looks like its fairly active, too!

Yay! I just peeked, don't dare linger or I'll end up going to bed way too late. I will look at it tomorrow. Tomorrow!

Oh I love you!!

Hee! Happy hug!

And I agree with your Jack/Gwen and Jack/Doctor/Rose statements. Really I think as I said before, I need to manip a OT4 icon.

Good idea. I'd like that. And then there's the love triangle with Rhys, Gwen and Jack that I'm tempted to play with.

I'm just not really feeling the whole Jack/Ianto thing personally. I didn't see the kiss as a kiss but more as a sort of alien-like mouth to mouth recussitation thing.

Yes, well, I thought it was pretty sexy but still not interesting enough to make me want to pursue the Jack/Ianto thing particularly. (Though I have a Jack/Ianto pwp in my head that I might write, if I think it's worth it. Which so far I don't.) And it clearly was an energy transfer to revive him because Ianto was unconscious through the whole kiss, which takes away from the general sexiness.

I'll try to get on posting some Jack pics tomm.

Hooray!

Rather than saying again how much I love your icon I'll abbreviate it to ISRAYI (I Still Really AdoreYour Icon).


Date: 2006-11-20 04:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] medelle.livejournal.com
LOL - love your abreviation.

Btw, I don't know if I mentioned or not, but if you want, feel free to steal said icon. I don't mind. :)

I didn't say Jack/Ianto wasn't hot, I just said I haven't really seen anything to make me OMG LOVE! regarding the pairing yet. :D

I wouldn't mind seeing a Gwen/Jack/Rhys interaction. I don't know that I want them to end up in bed together, but I wouldn't mind seeing Jack and Rhys meet and their reactions to each other.

Grrr. You're making me go all fandom goo and I have to go to work in the morning! LOL

Stupid job. Why don't they understand that my fandom life is more important?!

Date: 2006-11-20 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I don't know if I mentioned or not, but if you want, feel free to steal said icon. I don't mind. :)

Ahhh, thank you. I just might.

I didn't say Jack/Ianto wasn't hot, I just said I haven't really seen anything to make me OMG LOVE! regarding the pairing yet. :D

Well, yes, that's it. It's hot but it doesn't matter much to me otherwise. There's no resonance.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Gwen/Jack/Rhys interaction.

Rhys is happy with Gwen's job (except for the long hours) and proud of her. But he hasn't seen how well she gets along with her sexy, handsome boss, or how much she is intrigued by the mysteries he represents. I thought Rhys might meet Jack when their flat was ransacked by the fairies, but apparently not. I think there will be some complications here.

Grrr. You're making me go all fandom goo and I have to go to work in the morning! LOL

Faugh. Yes. Me too.

Stupid job. Why don't they understand that my fandom life is more important?!

My bosses have no sense of priorities either. I'd like to sit and write fic all day. Really.





Date: 2006-11-20 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I found another community for Jack and Gwen, a new one: check out [livejournal.com profile] jack_and_gwen.

http://community.livejournal.com/jack_and_gwen/

Date: 2006-11-20 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupati.livejournal.com
As a said teenager without much life experience.... ;)

I actually hadn't read any of those, but I went off and read the last one and thanks for the pointage out!

Date: 2006-11-20 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
As a said teenager without much life experience.... ;)

Yes - as I was once. And please don't think I'm saying 'teenagers can't write' or that these stories are necessarily substandard. The problem is that when you read a whole crop of such stories where the lack of experience shows - there's a sort of cumulative effect! Like reading sex scenes written by virgins. The scene may be terrific, but it's dealing with second-hand images.

thanks for the pointage out!

My pleasure! We need more stories, more rec lists, more, more, and more!

Date: 2006-11-20 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupati.livejournal.com
Like reading sex scenes written by virgins.

It is possible to write Torchwood fic without sex scenes, I hope.

Date: 2006-11-20 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It is possible to write Torchwood fic without sex scenes, I hope.

Oh, yes. I've done it twice now. In fact, I've yet to write a Torchwood sex scene - ! I must be slipping.

No, I'm not saying that all stories should have sex in them. As always, it's the writing quality that counts, not the subject or genre.

Date: 2006-11-20 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupati.livejournal.com
I've done it [including ficlets - in fact, only really ficlets] 9ish times so far.

[Written without sex scenes, I mean.]

Date: 2006-11-20 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes. I seem to be doing that lately too. I hope it isn't a trend that continues. I enjoy writing sex scenes!

Date: 2006-11-20 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupati.livejournal.com
But in my case, you hope it continues...

Did I just admit something? Me? *shrugs*

Date: 2006-11-20 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Hee - not necessarily! No conclusion-jumping here.

Date: 2006-11-20 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cupati.livejournal.com
Heh-heh.

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