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From March 12, 2009: Tami inspired this week’s question: What book do you think should be made into a movie? And do you have any suggestions for the producers?

I think my favourite series should be made into movies, or perhaps well-made miniseries:
  1. The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnett. Well-nigh impossible, probably, because what actor could ever adequately portray Lymond? On the other hand, I never thought anyone could adequately portray Aragorn son of Arathorn till I saw Viggo Mortensen in the role. These things can be done.

  2. These Old Shades by Georgette Heyer. I'd like to cast Johnny Depp as the Duke of Avon - not that he is anything like my mental image of Avon, but wouldn't he gorgeous? And camp? And dangerous?

    Alternately, I'd like to see just about Any Georgette Heyer novel as a movie, done with the skill and care they've given to Jane Austen in the past. No, not the one with Keira Knightly - something true to the period.

  3. The Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold. Again, finding someone who could adequately portray Miles Vorkosigan would be a challenge, but not impossible. Given today's technology, I think David Tennant could do it.

  4. Karin Lowachee's series about pirates, orphan boys and the battleship Macedon that starts with Warchild. Space opera with a psychological twist. Difficult because much of the action is interior (and with suspect narrators at that); but what gorgeous results we might get.

  5. Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett, because I want to see Sam Vimes onscreen.

  6. Megan Whalen Turner's series about Gen that starts with The Thief. Difficult because the writing is so devious, but... colourful, exciting, beautiful.

  7. An artful remake of Prince of Foxes by Samuel Shellabarger, or any of his books.


For the second part of the question: I wouldn't stop anyone from making anything into a movie. There are lots of movies I wouldn't - and won't - go to see, including a rather high proportion of the ones that do get made. No big deal.

Date: 2009-03-16 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmegaera.livejournal.com
I so agree with you about David Tennant as Miles. If only he was about twenty years younger, he could start with The Warrior's Apprentice and we could have the whole series [sigh].

I want to see the Amelia Peabody books on film, too. And I have most of the casting down pat for that one, too [g].

Date: 2009-03-16 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I so agree with you about David Tennant as Miles. If only he was about twenty years younger

And he doesn't even have a son. There must be someone else there like him....

No. Maybe not.

I want to see the Amelia Peabody books on film, too.

That would be good!

I have most of the casting down pat for that one, too [g].

So - ? Share!

Date: 2009-03-16 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmegaera.livejournal.com
Well, sort of [g]. My concept of Emerson at the time of Crocodile on the Sandbank is a composite -- looks like Brendan Fraser, sounds like Brian Blessed [g].

Ioan Gruffudd for the adult Ramses, and Kate Winslet for the adult Nefret.

Amelia still stymies me. Emma Thompson would be brilliant so far as personality, acting ability, etc., go, but she doesn't look enough like her. Other than that I can't think of anyone.

Date: 2009-03-18 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
looks like Brendan Fraser, sounds like Brian Blessed [g].

I'm having fun picturing that.

Kate Winslet for the adult Nefret.

Nice. I've never been much of a Kate Winslet fan (holding a grudge for Titanic) but I'm coming to like her.

Emma Thompson would be brilliant so far as personality, acting ability, etc., go, but she doesn't look enough like her.

I like Emma Thompson a lot. Hmm.

Date: 2009-03-18 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmegaera.livejournal.com
The thing about Kate Winslet is that she is almost a dead ringer for what I think Nefret looks like. Have you seen Branagh's four-hour Hamlet? She was brilliant as Ophelia in that (and I saw her in that before I saw her in Titanic, and since Titanic wasn't her fault [g] I'm willing to forgive her for that).

Date: 2009-03-18 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes - I loved Branagh's Hamlet and I liked the Winslet Ophelia. Problem is, I's already seen Titanic and the horror of my boredom has stayed with me.

Date: 2009-03-16 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topgeargirl2.livejournal.com
I would like to see the Gun Seller as a movie.

But i think Hugh Laurie said something once about writing the script for it.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
So it might happen!

Date: 2009-03-16 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzlizzy.livejournal.com
I'm all for seeing Georgette Heyer on screen! However I'd go for Devil's Cub. I could see Depp as Avon's son before I could see him as Avon.

Can't you see him lounging in the coach on the way to the party? I can.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'd go for Devil's Cub. I could see Depp as Avon's son before I could see him as Avon.

I would love to see both. Either one.

Can't you see him lounging in the coach on the way to the party?

Perfectly!

Date: 2009-03-16 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atheneunknown.livejournal.com
I myself would LOVE to see Anne Rices Mayfair Witch series done. Though after what they did to the other books, I dunno.

The first movie would be like 14 hours long though because it chronicles about 200 years of the past family ties.

But it would be so worth it.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
LOVE to see Anne Rices Mayfair Witch series done.

That would be... interesting. A good director. If they cast it right. Yes.

Date: 2009-03-16 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sollersuk.livejournal.com
The biggest problem with film versions of books is length. You have a couple of hours to tell a story that can have a lot of intricacy, so things have to be lost; not just subplots and minor characters, but often quite important bits. I've never seen a really satisfactory film version of a book, though if one has the elbow-room of a television series, it can be another matter - the (I think joint British/Australian) version of "The Day of the Triffids" is excellent.

Short stories need some padding, and sometimes it shows. Novella length is perfect. Unfortunately, this isn't a very popular length for published work.

So I would say that there isn't a single book that I would want to see filmed.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The biggest problem with film versions of books is length.

Yes. Sometimes we have to postulate a series of movies, like with The Lord of the Rings. A cut-down version of Dunnett would be unthinkable.

I've never seen a really satisfactory film version of a book,

I have, but it's rare.

though if one has the elbow-room of a television series, it can be another matter - the (I think joint British/Australian) version of "The Day of the Triffids" is excellent.

I haven't seen that, but I've seen some good miniseries based on books. Jane Eyre is an example - it made several terrible movies, but at least one very good miniseries.


Date: 2009-03-16 10:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
I've often been disappointed with film adaptations of books I like, but sometimes books I dislike can be improved. I think the film of L P Hartley's The Hireling (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0070180/usercomments-4) was better than the sentimental melodrama of the book: in the film, no-one dies, and it's more about the psychological damage done by WW1 to all its survivors. (And Peter gets his shirt off.)

Date: 2009-03-18 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I haven't read or seen The Hireling but that's the way I felt about The Go-Between. I'm reminding myself to watch The Hireling, which I've been intending to do since the time it came out - I liked the trailers at the time.

Date: 2009-03-18 06:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
It's superb. I'm just baffled by some comments and reviews other people have made on it: how can they discuss a film set c. 1920, with the 2 male leads an ex-sergeant-major and an ex-captain, without mentioning the war?!

Date: 2009-03-18 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I can't imagine. (I'd insert my Passchendaele icon here if I still had it up!)

Date: 2009-03-19 07:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Especially given that it's clear that both men are psychological/emotional casualties of war. The Sergeant-Major hasn't adjusted to civilian life, and is obsessive and violent, while the young officer is also in difficulties, as per this exchange with the heroine, when she asks him about his war experience:
Helen: Was it very bad?
[Hugh doesn't answer; his expression is hard to read in the darkness of the car]
Helen: Well, you're back now.
Hugh: Am I? Sometimes I wonder…

Date: 2009-03-20 09:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
And of course, he just looks so young and vulnerable... but you know has come through 4 years of absolute hell.

Date: 2009-03-20 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Interesting circumstances. And the background for some very good fiction.

Date: 2009-03-20 06:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Indeed. And the film also has a very open ending, which would allow for fic.

Date: 2009-03-20 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Definitely!

Date: 2009-03-18 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
I've just noticed your Silhouette icon! Gorgeous! (Grumbles bitterly about her and her girlfriend being killed off!)

– Well, I would have been very upset if they'd stuck to the book with The Hireling. Do not kill off the eye-candy is one of my tenets.

Date: 2009-03-18 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Grumbles bitterly about her and her girlfriend being killed off!

Except for Veidt, Silhouette and her girlfriend were my favourite characters in the movie.

Do not kill off the eye-candy is one of my tenets.

I approve of that - Watchmen should have listened.

Date: 2009-03-19 06:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
I agree about the girls! (Still not sure about Veidt.)

Mind, it's a superhero movie… Maybe it was staged, so they could go undercover? There's always a get-out clause in films of this kind!

Date: 2009-03-20 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I like that explanation. After all, no one in comics is every permanently dead.

Date: 2009-03-20 10:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Exactly! I see no reason to assume the worst. Given her background (she's Austrian Jewish), maybe she's gone on a top secret mission hunting down fugitive Nazis?

Date: 2009-03-20 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Very plausibly! Or under cover elsewhere because she wouldn't like the way US society went after the Keene Act.

Date: 2009-03-20 06:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Indeed. I certainly suspect she's gone back to Europe.

Date: 2009-03-20 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Tempts me to write fanfic telling her story. If I had time. Which I don't. I like the idea, though.

Date: 2009-03-16 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Tilda Swinton in In Viriconium.

Date: 2009-03-18 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oooh...! Nice thought.

Date: 2009-03-18 06:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
She'd be ideal casting as Audsley King: androgynous and slender.

Date: 2009-03-18 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I love watching her anyway.

Date: 2009-03-19 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
I adore her as Orlando!

(BTW: on that time-period, have you seen my thread on the purported Shakespeare portrait? I thought it might appeal to you!)

Date: 2009-03-20 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, absolutely! Very interesting.

Date: 2009-03-17 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
All good choices. Here: Dreamsnake by Vonda McIntyre. Go back in time about fifteen years and let Dana Delaney play Snake. Or, such a thought, present-day and cast Gina Torres. It would be brilliant either way. As for producer or director -- can't say! Someone inspired by the novel must be the one to do it, though. (Hm. That didn't work so well for either Earthsea or The Dark Is Rising, did it?)

Date: 2009-03-17 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
That didn't work so well for either Earthsea or The Dark Is Rising, did it?

Shudder. Not at all.

But I like your ideas about casting.

Date: 2009-03-27 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
But I like your ideas about casting.

Heh. Thank you.

Gina Torres was on an episode of La Femme Nikita about ten years ago, playing a totally unscrupulous sort who enjoyed torturing people in a certain interesting semi-participatory way. She was magnificent. Also in the episode was the singer/entertainer who had fronted a band called Adam and the Ants -- he left the band and called himself Adam Ant. This episode was filmed less than a year before I saw in the news that he had been taken into custody for his own protection, after behaving weirdly at a pub somewhere, including disrobing in front of people as if he didn't see them there. His character in the episode was totally unlikeable. But it was a good episode, pretty indicative of what the series strove to achieve. Someday, I'll get them all on DVD. (First, Doctor Who fourth season....)

Date: 2009-03-27 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I just read the Wikipedia article on Adam Ant; interesting.

I have mixed feelings about La Femme Nikita. Saw an episode or two and thought they were good, but I have such reservations about the premise (a woman being forced to do something, rather than choosing to do it) that I don't much like it.

Date: 2009-03-28 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
Oh, gad, yes. That entire show was S/M of the non-consensual sort. I both loathed it and couldn't stop watching it. Alas, what does that say about me? [heh]

I was captivated by the character named Michael. As the seasons progressed, the actor (Roy Dupuis) turned his character into something elegant and dangerous, and on top of that he was physically delicious. He ended up having a very odd way of delivering dialogue: at the end of something he said, he'd drop his jaw a little tiny bit, thus opening his mouth for no real apparent reason at all. And he did it all the time. Every time he spoke. And he walked like someone trained in ballet; and he ended up wearing only tights-like trousers or leggings. All very, very subtle, never calling the audience's attention to it.

Apart from that, I was deeply in crush over one of the two people in charge, Madeline. She was ... very scary. But lovely. And so in balance.

Yeah. Weird show. I also hated their very premise: an invisible organization that fights terrorism by using the terrorists' own methods. Ugh! how repulsive. But the character interplay... mesmerizing.

Date: 2009-03-28 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
That entire show was S/M of the non-consensual sort. I both loathed it and couldn't stop watching it. Alas, what does that say about me? [heh]

Okay, now you make it sound like fun. [g] Maybe I'll try watching it again. Others are trying to get me to watch Supernatural, if I can get over the squicky bits.

Lots of people were captivated by Michael, if he was the one played by Roy Dupuis. Wonderful actor.

an invisible organization that fights terrorism by using the terrorists' own methods. Ugh! how repulsive.

Scary and repulsive but oddly plausible. After all, it's what we've seen happening.

Date: 2009-04-03 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
Heh! Yes, you should try that show, definitely. Now I'm doubly motivated to pick up the DVDs.

Yes, that was Michael to whom I referred. He was leonine.

Scary, repulsive, plausible... but it never works, in real life.

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