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I usually don't understand exactly what is implied by the phrase "true love", and I avoid it for that reason, though I can imagine the parameters: deep, heartfelt, permanent love. So of course I believe in it.

And of course I believe in love at first sight. Been there, done that.

The thing about love: not everyone feels it, or expresses it, in the same ways. The people who don't believe in love at first sight are simply the ones who've never experienced it. We all have different ways of relating.

Date: 2009-03-13 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sollersuk.livejournal.com
Been there, done that too. And it really was until death did us part.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I wouldn't want to be any other way!

Date: 2009-03-14 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sollersuk.livejournal.com
Except that the parting point came too bloody soon.

Date: 2009-03-14 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Ditto to that. I still wouldn't want it not to have happened.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I disagree. My definition of love is one that precludes love at first sight. Infatuation, attraction, yes. Love? No.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Like I say, we each have our own styles.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I agree with you on that one. The point I thinking about making and then didn't make out of being worried that I might come across as bitchy and/or wanky because I am not in the best of moods and that certainly influences my tone was...

It seems contradictory to say that everyone has their own style or their own definition of love and in the next sentence to say that those who have a certain defintion of love (i.e. one that precludes love at first sight) have not experienced it yet. To me, that read as 'their definition is not valid because the only reason their definition is different is that they have not experienced it yet.

I'm not saying that your statement is necessarily wrong because yes, I am pretty young and maybe I will experience it and maybe my definition really will change. Still I don't think it's fair to say that the only reason anyone would not believe in love at first sight is because they haven't experienced it yet.

... I hope that made sense and I got my point across without much bitchiness >>;

Date: 2009-03-13 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I hope your mood feels better now!

I didn't mean that those who don't believe in love at first sight haven't experienced it yet. I meant that they haven't experienced it, period. They might in future - you never know - or maybe they never will. I'm just saying that different people experience love differently. Because love at first sight exists for one person doesn't mean it could exist for another - and vice versa.

I suspect that you will not change, and will never experience love at first sight - for you, love is a different sort of experience. This isn't good or bad or indifferent, it's just part of your nature.

Date: 2009-03-14 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
My mood is much better now that I've slept for almost twelve hours! \o/ Sorry if I was bitchy/annoying/too easily pissed off!

Seems I misunderstood your words or maybe read too much into it due to my bad mood, both are possibilities. Either way, I'm glad I get what you mean now *nods*

Date: 2009-03-14 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Amazing what sleep will do.

I think there are probably as many kinds of love as there are people to feel it, and the experience is unique in some ways every time. Which leaves a lot of possibilities.

What a perfect icon - !


Date: 2009-03-14 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I like this icon even better, though!

Date: 2009-03-14 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I have many icons that express love in some way.

Date: 2009-03-14 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
Some. The first two I didn't make, the one with the bunny I made.

Date: 2009-03-14 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
Playing with photoshop is tons of fun.

Date: 2009-03-14 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
That's a lovely icon, too.

I don't have photoshop and I have precious few artistic skills. Still... it's tempting, especially when I see other people's lovely icons.

Date: 2009-03-14 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I.... have photoshop.

Looking at other people's icons always makes me want to make icons. 's why I'm searching for nice pictures right now. I suppose I'm not too bad when it comes to icons, though I have much to learn in the ways of photoshop. But that's what tutorials are for!

Date: 2009-03-15 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Maybe someday I'll get photoshop. Maybe.

Date: 2009-03-15 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
Maybe get GIMP? I hear that is free and a good alternative to Photoshop.

Date: 2009-03-15 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I've heard that too, and I downloaded a copy of GIMP. Haven't learned to use it yet, though. I'm feeling intimidated.

Date: 2009-03-16 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
I had the exact same with photoshop. I can really recommend the use of tutorials as a starting point. The kind of tutorial that comes with pictures, those are really handy.

Date: 2009-03-16 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'll search for some tutorials like that.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:34 pm (UTC)
ext_120533: Deseine's terracotta bust of Max Robespierre (Default)
From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
You can be struck by beauty at first sight, or lust (if so inclined). I'm sceptical of anything more serious.

Date: 2009-03-13 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
My definition of love is one that requires actual knowledge of the person you love first, so I think love at first sight can't work because at first sight you don't know the person and how can you love someone you don't know?

So, yeah. I agree with you there.

Date: 2009-03-13 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
...Proving that there are different definitions of love - 'aspects of love', as Andrew Lloyd Webber would say.

Date: 2009-03-14 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
Yus. Definitely agreeing with this now.

Date: 2009-03-14 11:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-13 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Like I said: we all have different capacities in this regard. I don't think one person can judge the nature of another person's love any more than we can judge their pain or other interior qualities.

Date: 2009-03-14 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sollersuk.livejournal.com
Well, I can only go by my own experience so I don't define. Coup de foudre and then twenty marvellous years.

Date: 2009-03-14 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chatona.livejournal.com
Hm, when I talk about "my definition" of love, I don't mean that I have found a definition that I believe to be valid for everybody, but merely that I have found a definition for myself, obviously based on my own experience.

.. Does that make sense?

Date: 2009-03-14 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, that makes perfect sense. And it's all that any of us can do.

Date: 2009-03-14 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Our own experiences are all we can really learn to judge reality from. Which is why I argue that love is wide, and infinite, and quite possibly different every time it happens; all sorts of love are possible.

SJA Red Nose Day -- Behind-The-Scenes

Date: 2009-03-13 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raissad.livejournal.com
Here's behind-the-scenes stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3hXc9ew9TI

I'll post the actual skit when I can find it.

Date: 2009-03-14 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
I knew that if you kept mentioning that you've had the experience of love at first sight, eventually I would give in and ask if I know the person. So -- here we are at that point.

Nice weather today, hm? (That was for in case a tactful change of topic was suddenly called for [g])

Date: 2009-03-14 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
LOL! Well, I pretty much fell in love with Captain Jack Harkness at first sight... Does that count?

Date: 2009-03-17 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkingowl.livejournal.com
You silly. That's no answer! (Yes, he counts. But it's still no answer!)

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