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Title: Sexual Fantasy
Author: [livejournal.com profile] fajrdrako
Fandom: Torchwood
Characters: Gwen/Rhys, Jack
Challenge: [livejournal.com profile] tw100, challenge: slip of the tongue
Rating: G (yes, really)
Disclaimer: Not mine, no claims, all property of the BBC.
Notes: Cross-posted to my lj, outside_bf, and to tw100.


Sexual Fantasy

They were messing about, the way they did. Gwen teased Rhys about his pash for Angelina Jolie, which he didn't try to deny, and he said, "So who do you fantasize about?"

Gwen didn't even stop to think. "Jack."

There was a sudden silence. "Uh-oh," she thought. She was usually careful, talking to Rhys about Jack. She couldn't think of anything to say to fix it.

On the other hand, she was being honest, as she'd promised him she'd be.

Rhys laughed. "He has you all under his spell, doesn't he?"

Gwen allowed herself to blush, and Rhys hugged her.


Date: 2009-02-18 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
That was close! I thought Gwen was going to get busted for that one. Fortunately Rhys is a very easy-going guy and let this one go!

Date: 2009-02-18 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I thought Gwen was going to get busted for that one.

Hee - so did she.

Fortunately Rhys is a very easy-going guy and let this one go!

Luckily. I'm sure he's worried about it, when he lets himself be. But meanwhile - he has Gwen, so he can afford to be cool about Jack.

Thanks for commenting!

Date: 2009-02-18 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
Plus, he probably saw Jack dance with Ianto at his wedding, and thinks he's safe. Not counting on our flexible Jack. :-)

Of the guys on TW, realistically, I think Rhys is the pick of the litter.

Date: 2009-02-18 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dameruth.livejournal.com
I agree about Rhys. Pretty/sexy as Jack may be, and as much fun as he is to write about, I've known people very much like him in RL (minus the "being an immortal from the future catching aliens" stuff) and not considered any of them genuinely attractive (as in someone I'd actually like to get involved with, regardless of the pretty/charm/etc.; they can make entertaining friends, though). Someone like Rhys however . . . ;)

Date: 2009-02-18 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Given that this is all fantasy anyway, and given that I hate either/or choices, in my fantasy I want both Jack and Rhys... both wonderful, but wonderful in different ways.

Date: 2009-02-18 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dameruth.livejournal.com
. . . Which is, of course, an excellent point. ;) I always tend to be too boringly prosaic/realistic about such things.

Date: 2009-02-18 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
While I always tend to be romantic and let my imagination soar!

Date: 2009-02-18 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
he probably saw Jack dance with Ianto at his wedding, and thinks he's safe. Not counting on our flexible Jack. :-)

Which raises a question I find interesting, and should maybe write a fic about: how much does Rhys know about Jack's sexual orientation? Or his history? Does he know he's immortal and from the future? He hear him asking Jack "you're not gay, you?" but we don't hear Jack's answer. Did he evade ("quaint categories"), or did he say, "Hey, no, I'm flexible!"

Or has Gwen told him everything she knows about Jack? Including about his relationships with Estelle and Ianto? Or has she just said that Ianto was his boyfriend and left it at that, for Rhys to conclude Jack isn't interested in women?

Come to think of it, I'm working on a story that will cover this very thing, at least in a fan-fictional context. Maybe. We shall see.

Date: 2009-02-18 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
loved that,

Rhys is wonderful!

Date: 2009-02-18 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
loved that

Thank you!

Rhys is wonderful!

He certainly is. An amazing guy.

Date: 2009-02-18 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
yeah, I think we have Jack the fantasy and Rhys the foundation

sorry, trying to put this into words didn't quite work I think

Date: 2009-02-18 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Uh-huh. I'm using that as sort of a foundation of my interpretation of the relationships as they currently are in canon: Gwen loves them both, but is keeping her thoughts about Jack private, while putting her energies into having a good marriage with Rhys. As good as she can manage, anyway, with her hours and all that danger.

But I love, totally love the way Rhys is so proud of her work.

Date: 2009-02-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
In Adam she declares she loves Rhys, just not the same way she loves Jack.. personally I think Jack and Gwen would be a disaster because she needs to be needed whilst Jack needs someone to look after him, who considers his needs, not just his own - which Ianto does.

Rhys always seems to be the rock for Gwen at the cost to himself (end of Adrift for example where he again puts her first) and although he stands up to her, he knows her and knows what she needs.

Date: 2009-02-18 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
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<i.In Adam she declares she loves Rhys, just not the same way she loves Jack..</i>

Which I love, of course. There are many things I love in "Adam".

<i>I think Jack and Gwen would be a disaster because she needs to be needed whilst Jack needs someone to look after him, who considers his needs, not just his own - which Ianto does.</i>

I think Gwen and Jack would be terrific together; though very volatile. I don't see it lasting but they'd be nicely matched. Ianto and Jack are a different sort of couple, and while Ianto is in many ways what Jack needs (at least for now), I'm not sure whether Jack is what Ianto needs. I don't yet understand Ianto well enough; I think he needs someone to take care of, and there's a limit to how much Jack needs nurturing, as he is a nurturing personality himself.

Meanwhile it's loads of fun to watch.

Yes, I think Rhys is a rock for Gwen. I think he'd do anything for her because the main thing for him is not losing her - he'd do whatever it takes to keep he. And to take care of her. Yes, another nurturer. While she, like Jack with Ianto, puts excitement and meaning in his life. He's very proud of her, and I love that. But he must worry like mad whenever she's working, which is most of the time.

Date: 2009-02-19 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
I agree Jack/Gwen would be volatile and I think would then end in tears as Gwen does not put him and his needs first. And that would impact majorly on Torchwood the organisation (look at how vulnerable it made her and Owen and how it affected them)

Jack may just be what Ianto needs - Ianto needs to feel needed to a degree (and he's getting appreciated now which is important)and Ianto knows that he'll never lose Jack to death (again possibly important after Lisa). I don't see Jack as that nurturing actually - that's why he got Gwen to join in the first place. Jack has a purpose, defending the earth, and everything else comes second to that.

It's tricky as this is love and work lives meshing up.

Rhys is the only one not in Torchwood and he's the type of anchor they all need (not just Gwen) which is why Jack always encouraged her to keep that link.

Date: 2009-02-19 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I agree Jack/Gwen would be volatile and I think would then end in tears as Gwen does not put him and his needs first.

But as things stand, they are not lovers, so you can't judge by that. And Jack's good at holding his own. I think they'd have as much hope as any loving pair would, and they have compatible goals. She's something of a Jack acolyte, and it's good for him to be personally challenged from time to time. (Ianto challenges him sometimes, but usually not directly. Well... maybe at gunpoint, which doesn't count.)

(look at how vulnerable it made her and Owen and how it affected them)

Well, yes, but Owen was using her and didn't care - he isn't a nurturing personality. (Though he was with Katy. I guess that experience burned it out of him.) Anyway - I liked that subplot. Once I got over my horror. ("Owen? She's doing it with Owen?")

Ianto needs to feel needed to a degree

Very much so.

Ianto knows that he'll never lose Jack to death (again possibly important after Lisa)

True, but he has other fears about Jack.

I see Jack as very nurturing; but in a multifaceted way. I agree that 'defending Earth' comes first for him, and he's capable of stifling his nurturing impulses pragmatically at as needs arise, but they're still there. I know this is a point on which I disagree with a lot of fans, which is why a lot of the fanfic about Jack looks out of character to me. I think they just don't understand him. [g]

Jack's life, his love, and his work are not separable in his mind and feelings. He doesn't see the love/work dichotomy that others do. He's had lovers at Torchwood before Ianto.

I agree that Rhys is good for everyone. Nor would I want him and Gwen to break up, or for her to leave him for Jack. (Heaven forbid!) But I would like to see Jack and Gwen as lovers.

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