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Seems to me that all those examples are hinted or suggested by the canon at some point, though not pursued in the storyline. Spike/Angel is pretty much canonical, isn't it? At least as background?

Obviously Jack/Ianto is intended by the writers, and Jack/John, and I call Jack/Nine canon, though Jack/Ten is another matter. It's there, but one-sided.1 Jack/Gwen, check, even if it's a road-not-taken deal. Personally I'd really, really like to see Jack/Tosh and Tosh/Gwen. Or Martha/Gwen. Or Jack/Martha. We certainly do see Donna's attraction to Jack on the show, and the hug she gets from him. Too bad she's forgotten he ever existed now. As Jack once said to Gwen, "You'll have forgotten me entirely. Now, that's a tragedy."

Most traditional slash pairings I have followed would fit this question: Kirk/Spock, Mulder/Skinner, Mulder/Krycek, Krycek/Skinner, Bodie/Doyle, Clark/Lex, Horatio Hornblower/Captain Sir Edward Pellew (and all the permutations with sexy Lord Edrington), Gambit/Magneto, and so on.

Though I don't pay much attention to Harry Potter fandom, I do have a conceptual liking for Harry/Draco.

Infamously, when it comes to Lymond, I wanted Lymond to end up with Kate rather than Philippa. I am not complaining - we got a magnificent story out of it - but damn. I adored Kate.

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1 To elaborate on my current interpretation of Ten and his relationships: I think he has loved Jack, Rose, Martha, and even Donna, but has trapped himself in a psychological state where he is afraid to show love towards anyone, much less to commit to it. So when people get too close, he pushes them away - and then misses them terribly.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
I would also like to see more Ianto/Tosh. I know it's weird, but there's something about those two that could be pretty awesome. I think they both have hidden sides to their personalities that could really shine between the two of them.

Is Snape/Harry overlooked? I always thought that pairing was excellent. Also, Lucius/Snape - ah the power struggle. Hmm, how about Lucius/Draco? (yeah, incest, I know - it's a guilty pleasure.)

Date: 2008-12-10 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I would also like to see more Ianto/Tosh.

Interesting idea. I've been writing Ianto/Tosh. I just haven't managed to finish the fic yet.

Is Snape/Harry overlooked?

I don't know. That's the first Harry Potter pairing I thought of.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsylady.livejournal.com
To elaborate on my current interpretation of Ten and his relationships: I think he has loved Jack, Rose, Martha, and even Donna, but has trapped himself in a psychological state where he is afraid to show love towards anyone, much less to commit to it. So when people get too close, he pushes them away - and then misses them terribly.

Indeed. And he calls NINE damaged!

I've seen some Gwen/Martha fiction and I think I saw a few Jack/Tosh stories but the most common fanfic I've seen mixing it up for Torchwood involve Owen and fillintheblank.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
And he calls NINE damaged!

Nine was much more sane and functional. Troubled, but with a much better handle on it.

I've seen some Gwen/Martha fiction

I must hunt for that!

the most common fanfic I've seen mixing it up for Torchwood involve Owen and fillintheblank.

Hee. I don't like Owen much but he is eerily sexy sometimes.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
Snape/Harry is the first slash pairing I'd ever read and it's what got me into fanfic and fandoms. I owe the last 4 years of my life to that pairing. :D

I read some really good fics with the Ianto/Tosh pairings. If you get a chance, you need to read these:
Gold (http://community.livejournal.com/torch_wood/342985.html)
Loneliness (http://notevery.livejournal.com/3242.html)
Sex and Coffee (http://inkvictus.livejournal.com/45353.html)
The Quiet Room (http://sam-storyteller.livejournal.com/143406.html)
CCTV (http://entangled-now.livejournal.com/21091.html)
Whistle-Crack (http://kayliemalinza.livejournal.com/161547.html)

Date: 2008-12-10 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
How wonderful! Thanks so much for the links. You are a queen among fans, feeding my fannish lusts. I look forward to these.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceindreadh.livejournal.com
With Tosh's brain and Ianto's organizational skills, a Ianto/Tosh pairing would surely have ended up with them banding together in a quest for world domination - which come to think of it, wouldn't be such a bad idea!

Date: 2008-12-10 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
You're welcome! I really enjoy reading TW fanfic and I'm willing to give any pairing a try. Also, with so much Jack/Ianto fics out there it's nice to read something a little different.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
with so much Jack/Ianto fics out there it's nice to read something a little different.

I so heartily agree! I like Jack/Ianto well enough, but it isn't my favourite Torchwood pairing, and it seems so ubiquitous.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The world could do worse.

Are there any Ianto/Tosh communities? Challenges?

Date: 2008-12-10 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
So what exactly is your favorite TW pairing?

Date: 2008-12-10 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Jack/Doctor is my favourite, particularly Jack/Nine. Next would be Jack/John and Jack/Gwen (gasp! can't believe I like a het pairing! - that almost never happens.)

Date: 2008-12-10 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
I like Jack/Gwen more as an unresolved sexual tension pairing. I've tried Jack/John but I couldn't really get into it, and any Doctor pairings are difficult for me because he seems so asexual to me.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
Technically-minded they are very compatible, but I also think because of their more introverted natures they understand each other in a way that Jack, Gwen, or Owen couldn't (because those three are so extroverted). I imagine the Ianto/Tosh pairing to either be very sweet, or for them to really let their naughty/wicked sides come out and be a lot of fun.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
They're very compatible personalities, partly because they are both usually good at hiding their deeper feelings, and then are capable of doing remarkable (and unexpected) things.

They also each have a cute playful streak. A subtle sense of humour.

I bet Tosh likes James Bond movies, too.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I like Jack/Gwen more as an unresolved sexual tension pairing.

This is why I like it.

The Doctor never seems asexual to me. He's way too human for that.

I've been working on a Jack/John story - still unfinished. (Grump. I need to find time to finish more things.)

Date: 2008-12-10 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
I bet Tosh likes James Bond movies, too.

Oh yeah! But I also bet she'd start dissecting all the technical parts by saying something like, "That's not possible. If you reversed the molecularity flow on that it would cause a blow out that would destroy the building!"

And Ianto would reply, "But if you were able to shield the reversal through a stabilizer, you'd have a particle beam that could cut through steel."

Then Jack, Gwen & Owen say, "SHUT UP YOU GUYS! We're trying to watch the movie!!"

:D

Date: 2008-12-10 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
That all sounds so right! And Jack would be fondling Ianto and Gwen would smirk and Owen would daydream and Ianto would like Bond's weapons.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
HA! Time ... what is that?! (I completely understand.)

Date: 2008-12-10 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beathen.livejournal.com
Ianto would like Bond's weapons.

And not just the ones he carries in his hand! Ianto would try to hide his glances, but Jack would catch him, smirk, and grab Ianto's crotch. :)

This fic so needs to be written. If I have time (HA) later I might consider it. (Unless you want to give it a go...)

Date: 2008-12-10 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I have a notion to write stories of all the possible Torchwood pairings. I've done a few (like John/Owen and Jack/Owen) but I'd need time to do it - after finishing up the stuff I'm working on now.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
No, no, you go for it - you have it so nicely started! I'll be the cheering section.

Date: 2008-12-11 12:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
The Wicked Lady: Barbara and Caroline. It works wonderfully: does Barbara keeps poaching Caro's men, so that she has to stay with her? (I want another ending, expanding on the h/c scene when Caro puts her to bed and tends her wound.)

The Dark Side of the Sun: Raoul and Ismini. They're so perfect for each other – an elegant and sophisticated immortal Knight Templar with psychic powers, who needs a psychiatrist (700 years of PTSD!), and an elegant and sophisticated female psychic who is a psychiatrist – but the writer, M J Bird, just couldn't see it!

Date: 2008-12-11 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes - very cool! And the h/c fits in well.

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