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Finally had a chance to look at The Captain's Blog again. Loved this line from Jack, referring to the events of "Adrift":
After Gwen had gone home, I just held on to Ianto for a couple of hours, as tightly as I could.
Awww. That's the most romantic line they've had yet. Sheer h/c.

I suspect Ianto liked it, too.

Date: 2008-04-07 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
I really want to hug the person who writes this! It is so jack/ianto centric. Wonderful!

Date: 2008-04-07 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
I just sighed over that one. That's terribly sweet.

Date: 2008-04-07 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackarono.livejournal.com
Yeah, well, if you can't hold John, might as well seek comfort where you can find it. :)

Date: 2008-04-07 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It is wonderful - especially when the show isn't actually showing us these moments.

Date: 2008-04-07 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It's sweet, and it's so very much true to Jack's perspective - something we really didn't get in "Adrift" because it was all Gwen's point of view.

Date: 2008-04-07 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I'd love to see an episode in which Jack was holding John. We almost got it in "Exit Wounds" but I was left more unclear about the Jack/John relationship than ever. (This is not necessarily a bad thing, if it means we'll get more of it in future.)

Date: 2008-04-07 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
Well, I don't mind as long as it comes out somewhere and I suppose these little things would be hard to put on the screen!

Just makes me laugh wildly reading to comments from the gwen/jack shippers on there!!!! Cos Jack is really in love with Gwen. He just doesn't realise it yet!

Plonkers!

Date: 2008-04-07 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfinessy.livejournal.com
see?! how much would it cost them to put just a bit of that into the series?!

Date: 2008-04-07 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
how much would it cost them to put just a bit of that into the series?!

I don't understand why they don't. I wish they would.

Date: 2008-04-08 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I suppose these little things would be hard to put on the screen!

Yes, and it is supposed to be an action-adventure show. The fact that it is an action-adventure show with romance and philosophy thrown in is a bonus. I can hardly demand extra scenes of Jack and Ianto cuddling - which my imagination can supply rather well anyway.


Date: 2008-04-08 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
Frankly, I think my imagination does a much nicer job than they can do on the screen!

I think the balance is pretty good to be honest, with the addition of the books and the BBCA site. All builds into a very pleasant picture for Jack/Ianto.

Date: 2008-04-08 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I think my imagination does a much nicer job than they can do on the screen!

Frequently, yes. But those bits on screen - very nice indeed!

I think the balance is pretty good to be honest, with the addition of the books and the BBCA site

I agree. It's a nice full picture now.

Date: 2008-04-08 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
The bits on screen I often find rather embarrassing. Like I'm about 9 again! It might be the fact that my partner hates them! Oh, and everyone dissects them and brings Gwen into things (like the dance) then it ruins it for me.

Safer inside my head!

Date: 2008-04-08 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The bits on screen I often find rather embarrassing. Like I'm about 9 again!

Really? I love them. I'm shameless. I watch them over and over again. I was probably shameless when I was nine, too.

It might be the fact that my partner hates them!

That would crimp my style, admittedly.

and everyone dissects them

I do that - I love doing that. Just because I love the scenes.

and brings Gwen into things (like the dance) then it ruins it for me.


I love Gwen too, so I'm happy with all of that.

Safer inside my head!

Yes, inside my head is safest of all - and they can do what I want them to. Inside my head, the Doctor and Jack love each other, and everything else is a bonus.

Date: 2008-04-08 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
I know I'm sad. I should just sit back and enjoy. I love Gwen too, but not with Jack for some reason, though goodness knows why. I read an excellent fic (can't remember who wrote it) about when Jack was away when Gwen fucked Ianto and it was hotter than a hot thing. I'm just very odd!

I think the Doctor and Jack do love each other. Just perhaps not the way we would like! I have to say, I do keep the Doctor somewhat as a sexless person because he is part of Children's TV...

I'll say I'm odd again shall I?! ;)

Date: 2008-04-09 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I read an excellent fic (can't remember who wrote it) about when Jack was away when Gwen fucked Ianto and it was hotter than a hot thing.

Ooh, that sounds good! I must try to look for it. I have read (and am currently writing) Tosh/Ianto fic that is fun. I'd like to write more about Gwen. I will, I will...

I'm just very odd!

Well, there's no explaining tastes, including our own. In most fandoms I have a greatly-preferred pairing, and I suppose I do here - Jack/Doctor - but since canon gives me such a complexity of riches I don't stop there and I like all sorts of pairings, primarily Jack with just about anyone. It has to do with the way Jack is written: how he can be so very loving in so very many ways.

I do keep the Doctor somewhat as a sexless person because he is part of Children's TV...

Yes. I have trouble with that concept, but that's okay. I figure the legions of fans who feel that way can discreetly drop their eyes when they get to my sex-laden Jack/Doctor stories. (Which I mostly haven't written. Yet. My prefernce for the pairing still doesn't make it an easy one to write.)

Date: 2008-04-09 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
See, I really think there is something wrong with me because I have read a lush Ianto/10 fic by one of my favourite authors which I had no problem with! Jack is really only allowed to shag Ianto! Very odd!!

Here tis:

http://community.livejournal.com/torchwoodslash/331168.html



Date: 2008-04-09 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thank you for the link - we'll see what I think.

Date: 2008-04-09 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
This is the one where Ianto gets it one with the whole team. Ianto/Gwen is damn hot!

http://kita0610.livejournal.com/451916.html

Date: 2008-04-09 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thank you! (Smiling in anticipation.)

Date: 2008-04-09 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
Let me know what you think....

Date: 2008-04-10 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I absolutely loved "Of All Trades" - a beautifully written story, showing Ianto at his best, but giving a good picture of the others, too. And very.... in character, convincing, as well as being hot.

"Appeasement" was fun but it was also weird because it was so very much the opposite of my own taste/kink for Jack and his relationships. Jack was almost written out of it, and hardly characterized at all. And since Ianto was mad at him, I didn't even have their relationship to fall back on, so I was left with Ten - who was lots of fun: I love stories in which Ten is perfectly comfortable with all kinds of sex. Still. It wasn't really a Ten story, either. I wish it had included Jack in the sex, rather than excluded him.

Date: 2008-04-10 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
I've read a few where Ianto has sex with someone else to tease Jack. I have a john/ianto one somewhere. It does get Jack hot and bothered which I find every appealing!

Date: 2008-04-10 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
John/Ianto - now, that would be fun!

Date: 2008-04-10 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justinej.livejournal.com
OK. Here you are:

http://ukcalico.livejournal.com/279057.html

Let me know what you think.

Have you got any recs back?

Date: 2008-04-11 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Oooh, what a wonderful story! Beautifully in character - I particularly loved the way Ianto was done - and so hot. Gorgeous.

Yes, I've a rec: I really enjoyed The Captain's Valet (http://dodochaplet.livejournal.com/1854.html) by [livejournal.com profile] dodochaplet. Others too but my reading list is on the other side of the room. I 'll try to give you more titles tomorrow.

Date: 2008-04-13 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meret.livejournal.com
Awww! :)

ETA - I like the Jack/Ianto reference on this log too. *g*
http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/262/captains_blog.jsp?bc_id=954

Date: 2008-04-13 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
So cute; "I’d give him a stern talking-to, but I think he enjoys that too much."

The things Jack lets Ianto get away with!

Date: 2008-04-13 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I like this - more of the same would be fine, just fine!

*Hopes for series 3.*

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