I liked Gwen a lot this week, though I figured she was riding for a fall. Well, I hoped she was - I would have been annoyed if this had been an episode about how Gwen is more human than the rest of TW and therefore right in her reactions and about how they were wrong, wrong, wrong... er, sorry. I think there is some S1 hangover in there. So anyway, I was glad that it worked out differently.
And once again the Gwen and Rhys show was spot on. I could see why Rhys blew up in the park, but I still felt really bad for Gwen coming home to a "sleep on the sofa" hint and I loved them snuggling at the end.
Oh, how I love PC Andy!
Nice to see more of him, wasn't it? I can't believe he fell for the trick with the teas though - I was going "Andy, you muppet!"
he wants to join Torchwood... but does he have an area of extraordinary expertise
Does Gwen? That's not me being bitchy about Gwen, btw, but a serious question. What extraordinary expertise did she have that Andy doesn't?
Tell me to get visions of Jack/Andy slash out of my head, okay
I think you're asking the wrong crowd here. *cheers on the plotbunnies*
Projects he is reluctant to talk about
I don't quite get why he was refusing to tell Gwen about it though. Surely it would have been easier to just explain rather than lay down the law - he must have noticed by now that doesn't work with her. Why the intense secrecy? Especially since Ianto clearly knew more.
He has always told them the Rift was a one-way trip: this exposes his lie.
Is it really a lie though? I'd estimate Gwen had well over a hundred people up on her board, 17 out of that isn't exactly great odds, and the process is obviously random, unpredictable and completely unreliable. So if the question is "can a normal person who fell through the Rift get back?" I would say the answer is "no". And Jack did say that there had been more recently and that this was new - perhaps the only ones that make it back are those that didn't end in the vacuum of space or in the heart of some star or planet and because of the randomness those numbers are small.
I don't mean the sex, though I was happy to see that, too. (More, please.)
Second.
It might well be the polite 51st century response anyone would make when caught having sex - invite the other party to join in
I like that option best!
I imagine no one would believe their experiences, if they were even willing to talk about them
I was thinking about that while wondering if the families could be told - how they could give different explanations for what happened to the missing than the truth, say they were delusional etc. And then I decided that would be worse for the returned people, to not be believed. I did wonder if there were some where the damage and changes to them were small enough that they could be retconned and their families get them back, though that definitely wouldn't work for Jonah.
we do know two people who went through the Rift and came back again with no more damange than a broken heart
But they landed somewhere both known and relatively safe and were only there very briefly. There wasn't time or opportunity for them to really get put through the mill, or see a planet burn or into a dark star. It's not the trip through the Rift that does the damage, it's where they land.
I think Bilis was definitely responsible for the disappearance. I think as well that if he hadn't destroyed the end of Tosh's equation the Rift manipulator would have got them back, but since he wanted a less controlled opening, he was also ultimately responsible for them getting back rather than the manipulator.
What did Gwen expect from him, when she demanded that Torchwood do something about the problem?
That was the only moment where she did annoy me this week. Owen was right too - TW doesn't make sure people get therapy and counselling when people go missing because there are other organisations that exist to do just that.
At last - beautiful Welsh scenery
It was gorgeous. Reminded me a bit of the west coast of Scotland, especially the island.
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Date: 2008-03-20 04:23 pm (UTC)And once again the Gwen and Rhys show was spot on. I could see why Rhys blew up in the park, but I still felt really bad for Gwen coming home to a "sleep on the sofa" hint and I loved them snuggling at the end.
Oh, how I love PC Andy!
Nice to see more of him, wasn't it? I can't believe he fell for the trick with the teas though - I was going "Andy, you muppet!"
he wants to join Torchwood... but does he have an area of extraordinary expertise
Does Gwen? That's not me being bitchy about Gwen, btw, but a serious question. What extraordinary expertise did she have that Andy doesn't?
Tell me to get visions of Jack/Andy slash out of my head, okay
I think you're asking the wrong crowd here. *cheers on the plotbunnies*
Projects he is reluctant to talk about
I don't quite get why he was refusing to tell Gwen about it though. Surely it would have been easier to just explain rather than lay down the law - he must have noticed by now that doesn't work with her. Why the intense secrecy? Especially since Ianto clearly knew more.
He has always told them the Rift was a one-way trip: this exposes his lie.
Is it really a lie though? I'd estimate Gwen had well over a hundred people up on her board, 17 out of that isn't exactly great odds, and the process is obviously random, unpredictable and completely unreliable. So if the question is "can a normal person who fell through the Rift get back?" I would say the answer is "no". And Jack did say that there had been more recently and that this was new - perhaps the only ones that make it back are those that didn't end in the vacuum of space or in the heart of some star or planet and because of the randomness those numbers are small.
I don't mean the sex, though I was happy to see that, too. (More, please.)
Second.
It might well be the polite 51st century response anyone would make when caught having sex - invite the other party to join in
I like that option best!
I imagine no one would believe their experiences, if they were even willing to talk about them
I was thinking about that while wondering if the families could be told - how they could give different explanations for what happened to the missing than the truth, say they were delusional etc. And then I decided that would be worse for the returned people, to not be believed. I did wonder if there were some where the damage and changes to them were small enough that they could be retconned and their families get them back, though that definitely wouldn't work for Jonah.
we do know two people who went through the Rift and came back again with no more damange than a broken heart
But they landed somewhere both known and relatively safe and were only there very briefly. There wasn't time or opportunity for them to really get put through the mill, or see a planet burn or into a dark star. It's not the trip through the Rift that does the damage, it's where they land.
I think Bilis was definitely responsible for the disappearance. I think as well that if he hadn't destroyed the end of Tosh's equation the Rift manipulator would have got them back, but since he wanted a less controlled opening, he was also ultimately responsible for them getting back rather than the manipulator.
What did Gwen expect from him, when she demanded that Torchwood do something about the problem?
That was the only moment where she did annoy me this week. Owen was right too - TW doesn't make sure people get therapy and counselling when people go missing because there are other organisations that exist to do just that.
At last - beautiful Welsh scenery
It was gorgeous. Reminded me a bit of the west coast of Scotland, especially the island.