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fajrdrakoMoving right along here... from the sublime to the ridiculous.
But it isn't really, of course. It's just another episode, and we're back to more-or-less the pre-Spike standards. The thing is, "School Hard" spoiled me. (I still don't understand that title.)
With "School Hard", we got what I think of as a grown-up story, and for the first time I really believed that vampires could be dangerous (and bad, and good) and that Buffy's role as Slayer really meant something on both a cosmic and a human scale.
So: relaxing the adrenaline level, it's back to "tales out of school", and if you'll forgive me for saying so, it all looks a little stupider than ever. Especially Xander. We're back to adolescent concerns and situations, and I'm feeling a little impatient with the "who'll get a date for the dance" situations. It's like going from post-grad studies back to kindergarten.
Still: you've gotta like it, when a major plot point is a teen-age girl's lack of lipstick.
Points:
1. I was amused by the security and staff at the Sunnydale museum. Their special-exhibit Inca mummy gets up and walks away. (Presumably with her 'bodyguard' hiding in the closet all that time? I confess, I was hoping he'd look like Oded Fehr.) A modern corpse is substituted. The priceless pottery disc with old writing is broken, some shards missing. Buffy and Giles come back the next day and the museum staff still hasn't noticed these goings-on?
Ah well, no doubt it was all done by a gang on PCP.
2. Just when Xander had won a whole bunch of brownie points from me for gaining some maturity and courage last episode, he lost 'em all and then some by being both cretinous and girl-crazy this time, and specifically for dumping Willow after he'd already said he'd take her to the dance (with Buffy). Yeah, Willow understood, and I understood too: it was very not cool.
3. Way too much sitcom stuff - by which I mean, too many sustained jokes I didn't find funny.
4. Some good dialogue:
Cordelia: You didn't look at him first? He could be dogly. You live on the edge.
Xander: Hold on a sec. So, this person who's living with you for two weeks is a man. With man parts. This is a terrible idea.
Willow: What about the beautiful melding of two cultures?
Xander: There's no melding, okay? He better keep his parts to himself.
5. Xander says Rodney is "God's gift to the bell curve." I thought at first that meant he was smart, but I guess it was supposed to mean he was dumb. Doesn't matter, because he dies in short order.
6. In this show, when they say "The human sacrifice is about to begin," you take it literally.
7. I wasn't sure why Rodney wanted to steal the plate. Did he think he could fence it?
8. Good Buffy line: "Just this once I'd like to be the Overlooked One." Just once? I think I've heard that refrain before.
9. But it's followed by an intriguing line from Giles:
Buffy: Oh! I know this one! Slaying entails certain sacrifices, blah, blah, bity blah, I'm so stuffy, gimme a scone.
Giles: It's as if you know me.
Which can be taken in a few different ways, and implies depths and secrets, which I like. Or am I just supposed to think he's being sarcastic? It didn't sound that way.
10. I had a hard time figuring out what the Inca girl's name was, since everyone said it differently. Impala, Impaka - it turned out to be Ampata. Okay.
11. I liked:
Willow: So, Ampata. You're a girl.
Ampata: Yes. For many years now.
12. Cordelia was at her most annoying, treating Sven like a dog, and it was predictable from the first moment that he could speak English just fine but wasn't about to tell her that. Both Xander and Cordelia when from being Redeemed to Unredeemable in this episode.
13. So we meet Oz, of whom I have heard. Though we learn almost nothing about him - least of all anything that implies he will be significant - he does appear reasonably bright, and he has the good taste and sense to notice Willow. On the other hand, appearing "bright" in contrast to all the other characters in this episode, isn't difficult - even Giles and Willow are not at their intellectual best here.
14. If I wasn't already kind of disgusted with Xander, the Twinkies scene would have done it. Yuck! Boy stuff again.
15. Okay, Xander hid have one good line, where continuity raised its lovely head: "You're not a praying mantis, are you?" (No, Xander, but she's no more interesting than your praying mantis girl was, and maybe a little less so....)
16. Kissing brings on mummification. I'm trying to think of the implications here. Can't tell if that's erotophobic, kinky, absurd or metaphorical.
17. Xander says re his costume: "I'm from the country of Leone. It's in Italy pretending to be
Montana." Huh? I take it he just made it up? That's another Xander line that sounds as if it should be followed by a laugh track, except I can't get it to make sense.
18. Willow in her Eskimo outfit looks kind of hot. I don't mean sexy, I mean overheated. I can recall sweltering in a few costumes I wore at at various conventions in California ... and I was never an Eskimo.
19. I was really bored in the scenes where Ampata almost kisses Xander because I don't like Xander (not in this episode, anyway), but when she almost kissed Willow.... woo, that was sexy.
20. And Xander rescues Willow. Good! His second redeemable moment in this episode.
21. Buffy identifies with Ampata: "She was gypped. She was just a girl, and she had her life taken away from her....I remember how I felt when I heard the prophecy that I was gonna die. I wasn't exactly obsessed with doing the right thing." Well, no, but she didn't go around killing people.
22. So we are reminded that Xander saved Buffy. I suppose that's a little bit retro-redeemable, but really, I think Xander mostly looks just immature and sexist in this episode. Second only to Cordelia.
23. Not enough Giles.
24. But Willow is cute.
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Date: 2008-03-16 01:38 am (UTC)Leone, Italy is where all the "Spaghetti Westerns" of the 70s were shot. Most of Clint Eastwood's were shot there, IIRC, among others.
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Date: 2008-03-16 01:44 am (UTC)Always liked Clint Eastwood, though. Mostly as Dirty Harry. I was less into westerns.
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:00 am (UTC)Hmmm... School Hard = Die Hard (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/)? Not sure I've ever thought about it before.
Inca Mummy Girl is not exactly the best example of Buffydom ever, but it's all right. Although Xander is certainly a doofus in it. ;-)
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:05 am (UTC)The timing is right, though the sense isn't. ("School" is usually not a verb. But it can be...)
Although Xander is certainly a doofus in it. ;-)
Groan! I think I liked him last episode... Xander goes up and down in my estimation like a yo-yo. He's an idiot, but occasionally a brave idiot.
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:38 am (UTC)If you're going to judge every episode on where it rates on the Spike-o-Meter, you're going to miss a lot of what's wonderful about the show.
"School Hard" spoiled me. (I still don't understand that title.)
It's a play on Die Hard - plots are basically the same. Everyone trapped in a building with a murderous villain.
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:40 am (UTC)Some series get so full of that, that's usually when I lose interest in the show. :( Happened w/ Smallville. Do you still watch that? Is it still on?
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:42 am (UTC)Um, no. The "Leone" joke is that Sergio Leone is the director of the three big "Man with No Name" films Fistful of Dollars, A Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. Most of them were filmed in Spain (there is no town in Italy called Leone). The director was Italian, hence "Spaghetti Western".
(Xander is, obviously, dressed as The Man with No Name.)
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Date: 2008-03-16 04:00 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-03-16 04:55 am (UTC)Otherwise, I don't know.
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Date: 2008-03-16 07:48 am (UTC)Montana." Huh? I take it he just made it up? That's another Xander line that sounds as if it should be followed by a laugh track, except I can't get it to make sense.
Sergio Leone did all those Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns -
21. Buffy identifies with Ampata: "She was gypped. She was just a girl, and she had her life taken away from her....I remember how I felt when I heard the prophecy that I was gonna die. I wasn't exactly obsessed with doing the right thing." Well, no, but she didn't go around killing people.
There are quite a few people who see Ampata as a Slayer herself. And I suppose if you are undead, the definition of "people" may become fairly relaxed. (Ampata's no vampire, but she's definitely living dead.)
I love the fact that Oz really sees Willow and fancies her when she's in that atrocious outfit. It says a lot about him and where their relationship will go.
It's not in the same league as School Hard, admittedly, but there are some nice lines in it and there's meat for later plot developments there too. Move on, move on!
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Date: 2008-03-16 09:39 am (UTC)I think one of the things we're supposed to believe about the residents of Sunnydale is that they're particularly blind to weirdness of any kind. That's what makes Snyder's bit at the end of School Hard so surprising.
Which can be taken in a few different ways, and implies depths and secrets, which I like. Or am I just supposed to think he's being sarcastic?
A little of both, maybe? Because we're supposed to take Giles at face value still, but he does have secrets (hot damn, does he have secrets!)
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Date: 2008-03-16 12:40 pm (UTC)Perhaps I should warn you now that a lot of character drama does come out of who is dating who, and where it goes?
he lost 'em all and then some by being both cretinous and girl-crazy this time, and specifically for dumping Willow after he'd already said he'd take her to the dance
Um... I kind of like Xander in this episode, and I say that as someone who doesn't generally put him in my "favourite characters" list. He didn't dump Willow either - she says he should take Ampata, Xander says something on the lines of "great, we can all go together" as was the plan, and it is Willow who backs out and says Xander and Ampata should go as a couple.
Yeah, Xander is a bit girl-crazy, but Ampata is gorgeous and clearly likes him in return - which is apparently a new situation.
Xander mostly looks just immature and sexist
I watched the episode a few weeks back, but I don't remember any particularly sexist behaviour. Can you unpack?
I have to say I didn't think he was that immature either - in fact I think Xander deals with his crushes rather better than Willow does. Last season he told Buffy how he felt, she told him she didn't feel the same and now they both know where they stand - he took a risk that Willow won't and that means they can never have the same conversation. It's pretty clear that Xander could find Willow attractive from the aborted kiss in When She was Bad, but what he thinks and says is that he wants her as his best friend and he won't move her out of that box - perhaps he should say that to Willow, but he can hardly bring it up if she doesn't. I think that is one of Xander's good points so far actually - he takes that risk and tells people how he feels.
I confess, I was hoping he'd look like Oded Fehr
That would have been cool because Oded Fehr is lovely (but from the wrong continent, sadly).
In this show, when they say "The human sacrifice is about to begin," you take it literally
Kind of like when Buffy says (in possibly my favourite line):
"Some day I'm going to live in a town where evil curses are just generally
ruled out without even saying"
we meet Oz, of whom I have heard. Though we learn almost nothing about him - least of all anything that implies he will be significant
Oz gets a fairly slow burn introduction. You'll see him again once or twice before he starts to really interact with the rest of the gang. Mainly what is significant about him to start with is he sees Willow as an Eskimo and gets interested!
I'm from the country of Leone. It's in Italy pretending to be Montana." Huh? I take it he just made it up
Not a Spaghetti Western/Clint Eastwood fan then? Xander's costume is a good copy of Clint's from those films, and I think they are what really made Mr Eastwood famous as a film star. My dad was a fan so I've seen them a few times - though Xander does get his facts wrong because they were filmed in Spain. The Italian connection was Sergio Leone and presumably the money source; I seem to remember hearing Clint talking about the joy of filming when your director doesn't speak the same language and neither do any of the crew. The music is very good, btw - all Ennio Morriconne, and you'd probably recognise some of the themes.
"She was gypped. She was just a girl, and she had her life taken away from her....I remember how I felt when I heard the prophecy that I was gonna die. I wasn't exactly obsessed with doing the right thing." Well, no, but she didn't go around killing people.
She also did do the right thing, and it didn't even take her that long to get there.
Anyway - shame you didn't enjoy this one that much, but it is a bit of a filler episode. These happen.
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:27 pm (UTC)There are quite a few people who see Ampata as a Slayer herself.
Playing up 'Slayer as sacrifice'? I can see the possibility, but I think the analogy is strained - I like it better if she isn't, if she's some other unique kind of being. I do like the idea that the bodyguard was her Watcher, though - or equivalent thereof.
I love the fact that Oz really sees Willow and fancies her when she's in that atrocious outfit.
And he couldn't see much but her nose!
Moving on - !
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:37 pm (UTC)Hee. Not the worst? Tell me the other nine are in first season, so I don't have to face worse still!
I think one of the things we're supposed to believe about the residents of Sunnydale is that they're particularly blind to weirdness of any kind.
I like it that this is the case, and that they make self-referential jokes about it. There are different ways of handling this sort of thing. You can do it by normalizing the fantasy - Marvel Comics does it by making their universe one where superheroes, villains, zombies, etc. are expected. So does DC. You can do it by making the fantasy covert and secret, like in X-Files or most of the vampire stories, or Highlander. You can do it like Doctor Who, by (a) making a point that people don't see what's in front of their faces, like a TARDIS refuelling in Roald Dahl Plass, or arguing that the Battle of Canary Wharf was due to hallucinogens in the drinking water.
I like the way Buffy handles it - part joke, part conspiracy, part everyone's disinclination to really think about anything but themselves.
Because we're supposed to take Giles at face value still, but he does have secrets (hot damn, does he have secrets!)
Good. I love him even more in anticipation.
I'd like to think there's a third interpretation of this line, too: that Giles is thinking wearily, "Can't you just listen to me and trust me?"
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:39 pm (UTC)'It's as if you know me' - She often sees him as a cardboard figure and not a person, she thinks of him in very one-dimensional (and job related) terms, and he seems to accept it, but he's sarcastic about it. He does seem comfortable keeping her out of his private life.
I don't have a lot to say about Inca Mummy Girl. They tend to alternate good eps, less good filler mild eps, good arc eps, mild eps... After this you have another weaker one, then Halloween/Lie to Me/Dark Age.
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Date: 2008-03-16 03:46 pm (UTC)Yes, and the timing is right.
Buffy is well known for verbing nouns
And though "school" is usually a noun, it's used as a verb often enough not to really be strange, as in "home-schooled", and "his schooling was unusual" - admitted those are not verbs but an adjective and a gerundive noun, but both formed from the verbal rool. (Not that I'd expect anyone to say, "Do you school?" - which would probably mean "do you teach", anyway. Language is so weird. Joss makes it weirder, in his own inimitable style.)
He does seem comfortable keeping her out of his private life.
Understandable, and at sixteen she's probably still a little young to understand that teachers (and adults) are real people despite their roles.
then Halloween/Lie to Me/Dark Age.
Which are good, I take it?
I might watch the next one today: I am (subtly) trying to protect Beulah from the bad episodes, so she'll want to go on watching with me. I think for a while there in series 1 she wondered if my taste had slipped.
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Date: 2008-03-16 04:33 pm (UTC)There are many things written for teens (or even younger people) which I love - it all depends on the approach. It isn't that I think Joss is ageist, but that he sometimes piles on the 'teen characteristics' too heavily, making the adolescent concerns into a big deal that loses my interest - repeating the same motifs over and over, sometimes self-consciously and self-referentially. I have to admire his shamelessness! And though sometimes it's fun the way he plays with stereotypes, I wish he'd drop the stereotypes altogether and play with characters as people, which he's proved he can do when he wants to.
I should warn you now that a lot of character drama does come out of who is dating who, and where it goes?
If I thought it was all on the level of "Inca Mummy Girl", I'd stop watching right now, but I know it won't be, and we've already seen glimpses of better things. Tell me it's a bout 'who loves who' and I'm there. Tell me it's all about adolescent oneupmanship, and I won't believe you!
Xander is a bit girl-crazy
A bit?
but Ampata is gorgeous and clearly likes him in return - which is apparently a new situation.
And that was interesting, though he himself makes the parallel to Praying Mantis Teacher. (Who was, IMHO, more interesting because of the teacher/student social taboo involved.) Xander is a terribly one-note character, occasionally redeemed by decent dialogue or heroic action - I just wish they'd stop putting a sign with an arrow that says "Mindless Horny Teen" over his head. I'm starting to think of him as horribly sexist and I don't want to think that, but I couldn't help it in this episode.
I watched the episode a few weeks back, but I don't remember any particularly sexist behaviour. Can you unpack?
Unpack?
What I mean is, Xander seems to go into hormonal overdrive whenever he sees a pretty girl, and then obsesses on her sexual aspects and whether he can score, pretty much totally ignoring her personality, or anyone else around. Even though he seems to have given up on his love for Buffy, he's still jealous of her male friends and makes suggestive comments about them. Shall I continue? I could, but I don't want to sound as if I am bashing a character many people seem to like, and whom I would like to like myself. I don't want to turn myself into a Xander-hater by dwelling on the aspects of him I don't like. He is sometimes fine; just not in this episode.
I think that is one of Xander's good points so far actually - he takes that risk and tells people how he feels.
I like that too.
That would have been cool because Oded Fehr is lovely (but from the wrong continent, sadly).
Yes. Too bad. Obviously not all mummy-tenders are born equal.
Kind of like when Buffy says (in possibly my favourite line): "Some day I'm going to live in a town where evil curses are just generally ruled out without even saying"
I love it!
Not a Spaghetti Western/Clint Eastwood fan then?
I am, or used to be, a Clint Eastwood fan, mostly for the Dirty Harry movies. I did see and enjoy many of his westerns, but had entirely and completely forgotten the name Sergio Leone.
No, I'm not expecting to enjoy all the Buffy episodes equally. On the one hand, "Inca Mummy Girl" suffered from being right after "School Hard" and looking really bad in comparison. On the other hand, "School Hard" gave me faith in how the show, when it's good, is very good, and worth continuing with.
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Date: 2008-03-16 04:44 pm (UTC)I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not sure I can do anything about it, anyway - I obviously will like what I like and dislike what I dislike. Many of the things that make me squirm here are simply individual quirky taste: I like Spike, for example - not to imply that Spike is a quirky taste - but I know I'm in something of a minority in that I don't like TV comedy, though I like jokes within shows that have a serious base, particularly if there's a trauma/joke juxtaposition of scenes.
Since people keep telling me "Buffy is all about the pain" I'm assuming the balance of one-liners to serious story will work out in my favour, as it did in Firefly - which gave me a lot of faith in Joss in a way that Buffy so far hasn't, but doesn't need to. I loved his style in Firefly and The Astonishing X-Men, so even when the aspects of this show that I don't like seem to be to the fore, I have faith that the balance will readjust itself.
It's a play on Die Hard
Got it! I hadn't noticed the thematic connection.
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Date: 2008-03-16 04:46 pm (UTC)Yes, Smallville is still one, and no, I'm not watching. I started 'forgetting to watch' and then 'forgetting to tape' and then realized I wasn't enjoying it any more.
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Date: 2008-03-16 05:07 pm (UTC)Okay, I can see what you mean about that and the stereotypes. But the issues of adolescence, through various strengths of metaphor, are the backbone of the show at this point. This episode is not an example of it being done amazingly well, I'll agree.
Tell me it's a bout 'who loves who' and I'm there
Usually, yes.
Xander seems to go into hormonal overdrive whenever he sees a pretty girl, and then obsesses on her sexual aspects and whether he can score, pretty much totally ignoring her personality
I guess I don't quite see it that way. Not with Ampata anyway, I think they connected and that he did like her as well as finding her attractive. And the
commenting ondrooling over random pretty girls doesn't really bother me because, well, he's a teenaged guy and they do that. Maybe he gets points back for having his best friends be girls or something...he's still jealous of her male friends and makes suggestive comments about them
Yeah, but that's jealousy not sexism. He still has feelings for Buffy and therefore gets snippy about her fancying other people - he's not that mature.
Shall I continue?
Nope - I'm not a big enough fan of Xander to keep defending and your points are fair enough. I think we just differ in our opinions of how irritating it is in thie episode.
On the other hand, "School Hard" gave me faith in how the show, when it's good, is very good, and worth continuing with
Good! I think you probably won't be that impressed with Reptile Boy the next one, but there are some nice Angel and Willow moments, and they pick up again after that.
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Date: 2008-03-16 05:13 pm (UTC)Exactly. I like it when it's well done, or when I can and do retain sympathy for the characters. And this varies from episode to episode, depending on the writing.
Not with Ampata anyway, I think they connected and that he did like her as well as finding her attractive.
Maybe. I'd like to think so.
I think we just differ in our opinions of how irritating it is in thie episode.
Yes. You liked his relationship with Ampata more than I did. I saw them as using each other - both have teen hormones, but she hasn't been able to interact with a boy for centuries, while he is victim-waiting-to-happen. I find him lacking in character way beyond necessity.
you probably won't be that impressed with Reptile Boy the next one, but there are some nice Angel and Willow moments, and they pick up again after that.
I'll watch, and we'll see!
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Date: 2008-03-16 07:12 pm (UTC)The phrase "pre-Spike standards." It makes it sound like you've set up a gauge of "is this as good as seeing Spike" for the rest of your viewing of the series. If your entire viewing of the series is balanced on the fulcrum of a single character, then you're going to go into each episode with a lopsided mindset about the show itself. But I guess, as you say, you like Spike, and now that I've realized that you've only decided to watch Buffy because James Marsters was on Torchwood, it makes more sense to me.
And don't get me wrong here. I adore Spike. I think the character is awesome and I think James Marsters is awesome. I just don't line up with the view of the show that everything is about Spike Spike Spike.
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Date: 2008-03-16 07:20 pm (UTC)How is that "sexist" and not "teenage boy"? Sexism is a very heavy term to use for a very light act of adolescence. Xander isn't a rational adult, he's a hormonal high-schooler. I think maybe you're looking for stuff that isn't really there, because you're not that fond of him? They're all growing up and learning lessons and becoming people instead of kids, but it's not like the super-ego is fully formed in junior year. Xander's not insensitive because he's an asshole; he's insensitive because he's still learning how not to be.
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Date: 2008-03-16 07:38 pm (UTC)Yes, I know, and though you couldn't see it, I flinched as I said it. But thought it over and decided to let it stand for reasons of honesty. I really can't fully explain why Xander seems sexist to me when he's really just a teen boy doing what comes naturally - and that usually doesn't bother me - but I'm fighting borderline prejudice issues with Xander anyway and this is how it's coming out. Gut reactions that I've yet to properly understand. Perhaps Xander is reminding me of someone else? Or brining up bad teen memories of my own?
Xander's not insensitive because he's an asshole; he's insensitive because he's still learning how not to be.
With my brain, I can understand and accept that. My initial reaction is still to judge him harshly... and to be unsure how to judge between "asshole" and "clueless but trying". I think I don't see how Xander is trying to do better.
On the other hand, my reactions to the show in general and Xander in particular are veering wildly from one episode to the next. Ranging from, on that scale of 1 to 10, maybe a 2 in one episode to 8 in the next. It has to do with balances of how bad/annoying I think Xander's jokes are, or how lame the vampire villain, or how much screentime Giles gets.
And when I'm just sitting back and watching, it can be hard to sort out these factors.
I might, for example, have been more sympathetic to Xander's reactions to Amapata if I'd liked her better myself.
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Date: 2008-03-16 07:47 pm (UTC)Ah. I see. I didn't quite mean it that way, though I didn't quite not mean it that way, either. The thing was, I thought that "School Hard" was so much better written than most of the series 1 episodes that it changed my perceptions of what the show was like and how to watch it. I'd like to think that this was independent of my love of Spike, but I can't be objective enough to be sure. (But then, I have reason to think it's not just Spike's presence, but the actual writing style, in my half-remembered reactions to watching Angel back when it was on.)
And keep in mind that I've always intended to watch Buffy because so many friends have told me how good it is. But... it's maybe a case of being resistant to something that has been so praised by so many for so long, when I didn't quite see the attraction any time I tried to watch it. I'm a hard sell and I don't like most really popular shows. Trying to watch Stargate SG1 on terms similar to which I am now watching Buffy - and for similar reasons, which is that friends thought it was good - had a much stronger and much more negative effect: after four or five episodes I came to hate it with a passion just because I'd forced myself to watch when I wasn't enjoying it.
That's not happening with Buffy at all, and really, the clicker that made me decide to try it all is not Captain John and the availability of the DVDs (though they were the spur to the current timing), but the fact that I enjoyed Firefly and The Astonishing X-Men and Frey very much. (Or was that Fray? I never remember.) So I must like the Joss Whedon writing style. But as we all know, no writer writes the same way in all his works. I loved Tim Minear's The Inside, didn't much like Drive.
You know, I think the reason I pick on Xander so much may be because he makes the most jokes and has the fewest serious moments.
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