It doesn't look odd to me because of course he is my favourite DW character ever, but I only have three series of DW and TW behind me. I don't think my partiality will change by watching the rest, though: the reasons I love Jack so much are specific to him (and me) so while I am sure there are lots of great characters in the series as a whole, Jack will always be remarkable. For many reasons.
Heh, with so many years of it behind me, no wonder I expected Mickey to be killed off and never seen again in "Rose", and yes, I didn't expect Rose to see her family, home, friends often if at all, but quickly learned differently. Yes, I agree, even if you go back and watch as many as you can, I think Jack'll remain your favourite, simply because there is a lot more emotional depth to the characters in the new version. Jack's certainly the first ever openly sexual (and omnisexual) character on DW.
So, go ahead, list your reasons (or do a post if you prefer) for finding Jack remarkable, I'd like to read it.
Well, yes. His talents are amazing. It's almost too bad he's so good looking - it's easy to see Jack as superficial because of it, but he isn't. Barrowman makes him incredibly convincing.
For me, in DW, yes, for TW, not always, but I think he's terrific in one on one scenes like with John in "Out Of Time" and 1941!Jack in "Captain Jack Harkness". I also thought he was convincing in "Combat" (well, not so much on the cell phone, since Torchwood Three has been seen to be pretty incompetent, but that's down to the lack of credence established in earlier episodes, not a shortcoming of John Barrowman's acting).
Really? my goodness, did they mess with that! He ended up looking like a real scumbucket, hanging out with the Doctor for profit motives alone.
Yeah, I'll really have to listen to the commentary for "Dalek" and "The Long Game" to confirm it with my own ears, and I have Doctor Who Confidential episodes to catch up on. I'm pretty sure one or the other or both will confirm that Adam wasn't just total scum.
I'd like to see Jack come across Adam and have to deal with him. Ooooo... there's another fic idea for you! *grin* *passes plot bunny quickly to fajrdrako*
Yes, and I really don't want to see that. I want the Doctor to be all that Jack thinks he is. I'd rather that the Doctor be redeemed, than for Jack to find someone else. Which I guess just goes to show that I still love the idea of the pairing even if I want to smack the Doctor for the way he has treated Jack. I want the Doctor to be the Doctor I want him to be. We still get glimpses of it, but the bottom line... after "The Last of the Time Lords"... isn't it.
I want the Doctor to be redeemed too, be it of his own accord, or some smackdowns make him start thinking and changing, either way is fine with me. Maybe it'll happen when he becomes Eleven? Twelve? But I don't want to have to wait that long.
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Date: 2007-10-20 10:15 pm (UTC)It doesn't look odd to me because of course he is my favourite DW character ever, but I only have three series of DW and TW behind me. I don't think my partiality will change by watching the rest, though: the reasons I love Jack so much are specific to him (and me) so while I am sure there are lots of great characters in the series as a whole, Jack will always be remarkable. For many reasons.
Heh, with so many years of it behind me, no wonder I expected Mickey to be killed off and never seen again in "Rose", and yes, I didn't expect Rose to see her family, home, friends often if at all, but quickly learned differently. Yes, I agree, even if you go back and watch as many as you can, I think Jack'll remain your favourite, simply because there is a lot more emotional depth to the characters in the new version. Jack's certainly the first ever openly sexual (and omnisexual) character on DW.
So, go ahead, list your reasons (or do a post if you prefer) for finding Jack remarkable, I'd like to read it.
Well, yes. His talents are amazing. It's almost too bad he's so good looking - it's easy to see Jack as superficial because of it, but he isn't. Barrowman makes him incredibly convincing.
For me, in DW, yes, for TW, not always, but I think he's terrific in one on one scenes like with John in "Out Of Time" and 1941!Jack in "Captain Jack Harkness". I also thought he was convincing in "Combat" (well, not so much on the cell phone, since Torchwood Three has been seen to be pretty incompetent, but that's down to the lack of credence established in earlier episodes, not a shortcoming of John Barrowman's acting).
Really? my goodness, did they mess with that! He ended up looking like a real scumbucket, hanging out with the Doctor for profit motives alone.
Yeah, I'll really have to listen to the commentary for "Dalek" and "The Long Game" to confirm it with my own ears, and I have Doctor Who Confidential episodes to catch up on. I'm pretty sure one or the other or both will confirm that Adam wasn't just total scum.
I'd like to see Jack come across Adam and have to deal with him. Ooooo... there's another fic idea for you! *grin* *passes plot bunny quickly to
Yes, and I really don't want to see that. I want the Doctor to be all that Jack thinks he is. I'd rather that the Doctor be redeemed, than for Jack to find someone else. Which I guess just goes to show that I still love the idea of the pairing even if I want to smack the Doctor for the way he has treated Jack. I want the Doctor to be the Doctor I want him to be. We still get glimpses of it, but the bottom line... after "The Last of the Time Lords"... isn't it.
I want the Doctor to be redeemed too, be it of his own accord, or some smackdowns make him start thinking and changing, either way is fine with me. Maybe it'll happen when he becomes Eleven? Twelve? But I don't want to have to wait that long.