I really wonder if RTD likes/enjoys writing Jack, the way Jack was sidelined in the finale, and the way the Doctor treats him.
It might explain the way Jack was somewhat sidelined in some of the Torchwood episodes. I don't mean "Random Shoes" (though I don't quite understand the need for episodes that exclude the lead role). My interpretation in general has been that RTD is burning out somewhat, and doesn't see it - that he's gone from making outrageously sensationalist stories that are also full of subtle characterization, philosophical depth and carefully orchestrated plotlines, to simply producing stories that are outrageously sensationalist. Period. In other words, he's running out of ideas, and the ideas he has aren't shining as brightly as they did.
In any case, Jack was shafted. I thought RTD just wasn't particularly interested in him here - he was so into the story of The Master that the other characters didn't matter.
So why did Adam need and want the information from the future? Was it not just greed?
Damn, I should stop venting about that episode.
I'm glad you said something here. I'm happy to have people to talk to about this, because I share those concerns, even if I'm managed to get to a more philosphical attitude about it, rather than the sense of shock I felt right after seeing "The Last of the Time Lords". Most fans don't seem to have noticed or cared about these concerns, and it's something I feel the need to discuss in order to come to terms with it.
I find all sorts of ways to reinterpret things that make me feel better, but I can't quite find a way that redeems the Doctor.
In other discussions, we were saying that Nine seemed to draw people to him, while Ten thrusts them away.
One of the strong themes I got from series 1 was that however crusty he may be, the Doctor loves Earth and the people of Earth, both individually (sometimes) and collectively. I'm not so sure that's still true, with Ten. Or that it's still demonstrably true.
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Date: 2007-10-20 02:57 pm (UTC)It might explain the way Jack was somewhat sidelined in some of the Torchwood episodes. I don't mean "Random Shoes" (though I don't quite understand the need for episodes that exclude the lead role). My interpretation in general has been that RTD is burning out somewhat, and doesn't see it - that he's gone from making outrageously sensationalist stories that are also full of subtle characterization, philosophical depth and carefully orchestrated plotlines, to simply producing stories that are outrageously sensationalist. Period. In other words, he's running out of ideas, and the ideas he has aren't shining as brightly as they did.
In any case, Jack was shafted. I thought RTD just wasn't particularly interested in him here - he was so into the story of The Master that the other characters didn't matter.
So why did Adam need and want the information from the future? Was it not just greed?
Damn, I should stop venting about that episode.
I'm glad you said something here. I'm happy to have people to talk to about this, because I share those concerns, even if I'm managed to get to a more philosphical attitude about it, rather than the sense of shock I felt right after seeing "The Last of the Time Lords". Most fans don't seem to have noticed or cared about these concerns, and it's something I feel the need to discuss in order to come to terms with it.
I find all sorts of ways to reinterpret things that make me feel better, but I can't quite find a way that redeems the Doctor.
In other discussions, we were saying that Nine seemed to draw people to him, while Ten thrusts them away.
One of the strong themes I got from series 1 was that however crusty he may be, the Doctor loves Earth and the people of Earth, both individually (sometimes) and collectively. I'm not so sure that's still true, with Ten. Or that it's still demonstrably true.