"And who ever believes the major archenemy in any series is permanently dead?"
I hate RTD for even trying to convince us New Schoolers that it was a closure.
"I'd have said the Doctor didn't have the right to curtail Jack's movements - Jack's power to travel in time didn't come from the Doctor (except insofar as the Doctor repaired his broken equipment) and Jack was a time traveller long before the Doctor met him."
Since it's the Doctor repaired the broken equipment, he had the right to take the power back. However, this definitely couldn't justify the Doctor's behaviour in any way. When I first saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes. I don't know why, I just can't picture Nine doing this in my head.
"Come to think of it, I'm not sure which of them would be the mischievous child."
Ten looks very much like a teenager to me. Now Jack is the adult of the pair.
"If he has just endured a year of bondage thanks to the Master, he can endure a different kind of containment thanks to the Doctor."
The Time Lords are kinky bastards. Now I wonder if they understand love outside the bondage, or if it's only a thing with Ten and Simm!Master. Come to think of it, I can picture Jack with anyone, in any pairing, but not with Saxon.
"So Jack's suffering was all essentially for the sake of the Doctor's love of the Master."
This is a little too much to endure, don't you think? Asking anyone to pay that high a price, his/her love will eventually break off, given enough time. You know, sometimes I simply can't take LotTL seriously. They didn't really go there like people in BSG. They just skipped it. After one year of nightmare, I expect Jack and Martha would at least change somehow. They didn't. It's both an emotional mess and an emotional blank. I don't expect emotinal truth in TV land, but this is too much a cop-out.
"And I personally would love to see Jack do more time travelling. Let's see him meet Shakespeare and Brannigan and Tim Latimer."
Me too! Shakespeare would have great fun with him. Oh the hotness. I don't think Jack/JB is a cat person, though.
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Re: Part 2 reply: Jack and the Doctor
Date: 2007-07-20 06:12 pm (UTC)I hate RTD for even trying to convince us New Schoolers that it was a closure.
"I'd have said the Doctor didn't have the right to curtail Jack's movements - Jack's power to travel in time didn't come from the Doctor (except insofar as the Doctor repaired his broken equipment) and Jack was a time traveller long before the Doctor met him."
Since it's the Doctor repaired the broken equipment, he had the right to take the power back. However, this definitely couldn't justify the Doctor's behaviour in any way. When I first saw it, I couldn't believe my eyes. I don't know why, I just can't picture Nine doing this in my head.
"Come to think of it, I'm not sure which of them would be the mischievous child."
Ten looks very much like a teenager to me. Now Jack is the adult of the pair.
"If he has just endured a year of bondage thanks to the Master, he can endure a different kind of containment thanks to the Doctor."
The Time Lords are kinky bastards. Now I wonder if they understand love outside the bondage, or if it's only a thing with Ten and Simm!Master. Come to think of it, I can picture Jack with anyone, in any pairing, but not with Saxon.
"So Jack's suffering was all essentially for the sake of the Doctor's love of the Master."
This is a little too much to endure, don't you think? Asking anyone to pay that high a price, his/her love will eventually break off, given enough time. You know, sometimes I simply can't take LotTL seriously. They didn't really go there like people in BSG. They just skipped it. After one year of nightmare, I expect Jack and Martha would at least change somehow. They didn't. It's both an emotional mess and an emotional blank. I don't expect emotinal truth in TV land, but this is too much a cop-out.
"And I personally would love to see Jack do more time travelling. Let's see him meet Shakespeare and Brannigan and Tim Latimer."
Me too! Shakespeare would have great fun with him. Oh the hotness. I don't think Jack/JB is a cat person, though.
"I do mean the casting spoiler."
I'd like to see what comes out of it.
"OMG, they ARE twisted."
You bet they are! *sigh*