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It's been a funny day. I slept twelve hours last night - close enough - and it felt good. Planned to do things, ended up reading and then falling asleep on the sofa. What happened to the life of accomplishment and excitement that I want to be living?

Watched some more of Cowboy Bebop. I'm enjoying it very much - and it reminds me very much of Firefly: the old west ambience, the country-western music, the notion that being a bounty hunter isn't so unlike whatever it is that Mal Reynolds does for a living, and the people they meet have a certain resemblance. The fact that they fly around in a battered of spaceship which they love. The fact that - though on the surface the men are not much alike - they have a similar sense of humour, and a similar sense of courage.

Of course, resembling Firefly is not a bad thing. Not at all.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
It's been a funny day. I slept twelve hours last night - close enough - and it felt good. Planned to do things, ended up reading and then falling asleep on the sofa. What happened to the life of accomplishment and excitement that I want to be living?

I know the feeling. Have been whizzing around with friends earlier in the week, and am fairly tired. Having a weird nightmare last night, which reflected insecurities re: career, and feelings of worthlessness, didn't help, either.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littledrop.livejournal.com
You're not alone. I have often thought that a Bebop/Firefly crossover would work very well indeed.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I've had more than my share of insecure dreams like that. It's one reason I don't usually like to remember my dreams.

I should be doing some housecleaning sorts of things - or writing - I keep finding other diversions, like reading LJ.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wijsgeer.livejournal.com
didn't I tell you you would like it better if you watched the series and not just the movie ? ;-)

I love Ed

Date: 2007-01-27 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Don't tempt me! That would be fun to write.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, I'm enjoying the series more than the movie - you're quite right, there's more to it. And both the movie and the series are infinitely better than the manga!

Date: 2007-01-27 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wijsgeer.livejournal.com
oh that is good to know, now I don't have to look for that. This is a series with an ending and it was all so frustrating. I like the humor but still the feeling that there is seriousness behind it. I do dislike the very slapsticky kinda humor that anime sometimes dives into.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Yes, it was a very odd dream. Despite the fact I had gone on to do a PhD, & c., I found out (in the present day) that I had only got a Third, not a 2/1, in my first degree, and although I had only just found out this mistake, everyone was treating me as a fake, a fraud.

I think what it was indicating is that sometimes I wonder why, if I am as good as my qualifications, publications & c, show, am I so under-valued in society? Does the fact that I keep meeting with rejection, & c., reflect my real worthlessness? I was supposed to achieve great things. I believed I could. I suppose a book, and various articles are something - but they haven't given me any of the material security I desperately need.

Date: 2007-01-27 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littledrop.livejournal.com
Oooh. *tempts* Mal would be all pissed because Spike's bounty hunting interfered with his operation. Kaylee and Jet would totally bond over engines. Jayne would lust after Faye, but Faye would see right through him and head straight for, um. Inara, maybe? For tea and mockery of idiotic men, and maybe hot woman sex. And you just know Ed and River would get on like a house on fire, and Simon would sit there going, "Um. What?"

Date: 2007-01-27 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Yes, I think that's the problem. The disparity between academic/intellectual accomplishment and professional accomplishment. It's distressing and disorienting.

My problem is that I feel so far from my days as a historian that I am ashamed of the way I have not kept up with the historian's skills on which I once prided myself, and currently see no feasible way to do so.

Date: 2007-01-27 10:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
The social isolation is the worst part: not being part of a community of scholars any more. The other year, I went to an exhibition opening at Glasgow University, and coming away from it, looking back at the windows lit up in the Quadrangle, I felt as if I had been expelled from paradise again.

Date: 2007-01-27 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com
This is my only Cowboy Bebop-related icon, so I'm using it even though there's no "WTF" in my commentary. Ein & Ed, two great characters who work great together!

I think the thing I love most about the show is that all the characters are losers at heart, but they still plug away at life, doing the best they can. It's just so frickin' brave of them sometimes, just to face another disastrous day. Little wins are the best they can do and they make the most of them. So full of love for them all!

I also adore the show's music. Not just the Real Folk Blues and the cool-jazz "Tank" opening, but the background and incidental music as well. If you go on eBay, you can find the 7 CD box set and the 4 CD box set for sale, and I have to say, having purchased the 7 CD box set last year, the CDs are well worth it. Lots of amazingly cool and weird Japanese pop, rock, jazz, new wave, classical, and *whatever* music!

Date: 2007-01-27 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
The social isolation is the worst part: not being part of a community of scholars any more.

Yup. People look at me clearly thinking, "Why would anyone want to study the twelfth century?", or they argue with me about the historicity of Robin Hood or some such topic based on what they saw on TV as a kid. My years of academic scholarship mean nothing to them, but still mean a lot to me. This isn't to blame them - how could they have any kind of a concept of either the medieval period or my own experiences as a student of this material, and what it meant to me? They couldn't. They can't. They didn't even know me then. There's no reason I should expect them to understand. Especially when academic scholarship itself is not something that's respected in our society.

It does leave me feeling isolated. A big central part of my life - however lapsed, I value it as much as I ever did, and it was once my life - and I can't even talk about it with my friends. And when I try, I'm just left more frustrated than ever because their reactions; so I don't talk about it, and feel the silence even more.

"Expelled from paradise" is a good way of putting it.

Date: 2007-01-27 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
This is why I'm so grateful for the internet: meeting people like you, and several others in the group, who care about these things. What tends to frustrate me (as it clearly does you) are people who think that something they've seen in a movie, or some trashy novel or 'popular' history, gives their arguments as much weight and validity as having studied it formally; at understanding sources, research method, & c. They then accuse you of being "elitist" - as if that's a bad thing. I'm happy to learn from people whose expertise I respect (some of these great new publications that I've been catching up on, that have appeared in the past 20 years), and my views on a lot of things have shifted through absorbing new scholarship. But too many people think it's "elitist" to acknowledge that there's a sort of ladder of expertise. I wouldn't place myself very high on it - there are dozens of Professors & c. up at the top - but neither of us is on the ground.

Date: 2007-01-27 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
This is why I'm so grateful for the internet

Yes, excatly! I am so thankful for all of you.

What tends to frustrate me (as it clearly does you) are people who think that something they've seen in a movie, or some trashy novel or 'popular' history, gives their arguments as much weight and validity as having studied it formally

Yes. I want to say: I spent five years of my life studying this from the original source material, slaving over it with a passionate intensity, and you think you know better than I do when you've focussed on the subject at all? And yes, of course, that's just it, they do think they know better.... and they're wrong. But I don't know how to express that without giving offense. Because they are so sure they know.


Date: 2007-01-27 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
This is my only Cowboy Bebop-related icon, so I'm using it even though there's no "WTF" in my commentary.

It's wonderful!

Little wins are the best they can do and they make the most of them. So full of love for them all!

They really are terrific characters.

And not jsut the music but the art and the style - it's a beautiful package, very artfully put together by creative people who clearly knew what they were doing and made it a labour of love.

Date: 2007-01-28 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Team Lazy Saturdays and Cowboy Bebop. I'm glad you're enjoying the dvds I sent you. :)

Date: 2007-01-28 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I certainly am enjoying them! I took them upstairs this evening to show [livejournal.com profile] maaseru and [livejournal.com profile] maaboroshi, starting again at the beginning. A very good time was had by all. I think you have created at least one Canadian addict. Even [livejournal.com profile] maaseru said she was enjoying them, and she usually doesn't like anime much.

Date: 2007-01-28 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
Huzzah!

Yeah, I think Cowboy Bebop is a pretty unique anime. Not all translate so well outside the artform.

Date: 2007-01-28 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Hee. It's almost irresistible! Yes, consider me tempted, at least to having this rattling around in my head for a while, gathering words and crossover plot ideas.

Date: 2007-01-28 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
It's rather surprising to see the difference in quality between the manga and the series - a completely different level of artistry and concept. But Spike is pretty good in all versions! I love his suit, and his loping walk. The combination of music and art is remarkable.

Date: 2007-01-28 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for letting me borrow this. I'm treating it well, I promise! Loving it madly.

Date: 2007-01-28 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieureden.livejournal.com
No prob! Thanks for introducing me to From Eroica...

Date: 2007-01-28 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
Big grin - happy to be of service!

Date: 2007-01-28 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waltzie.livejournal.com
That's funny, I just started watching Firefly and noting how like Cowboy Bebop it was!

Date: 2007-01-28 10:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] silverwhistle.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, contemporary culture seems to hold that uninformed opinion should carry the same weight as informed opinion... I've come across this a lot in the museums/galleries sector, where it's become trendy for opinions and interpretations by visitors to be posted on the walls: interesting, sometimes, amusing, but sometimes totally wrong-headed. A few years ago, one art gallery in England came horribly unstuck by allowing the visitors to vote which of a temporary collection of sculptures they wanted the gallery to keep. The visitors voted for the work of least artistic merit: a kitsch black and gold figure of the ex-Princess of Wales... (There was an amused article on this in the Museums Journal - yet Museums Journal has been at the forefront of all this "anti-elitist", "we mustn't pretend that the experts have any real expertise" bullshit.

The IMDb board on Kingdom of Heaven sometimes makes me seethe... People who think that it's just "common sense" that 12C people would be openly expressing agnostic or Unitarian-type points of view; or who thought the royal house of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was of Arab stock. People who think James Reston is a historian. Or one lad who posted lately, upholding one historian (not a bad one, when he stays on topic and doesn't allow his contemporary politics to spill over) above all others, simply because he's a fellow-American, and so many of the others available in English are British. I'd love to put up a sign: "You are now entering the 12C. It is a different universe. Please check your present-day national identity and hang-ups at the door."

Part of the problem seems to be the idea that "anyone can be a historian" - all you have to do is be able to read. They have no idea about interpreting and evaluating primary sources, about reading them in the original languages... I recall once someone recommending something on ancient history - which was actually completely discredited by historians - by a surgeon. (It wasn't even remotely medically related, either.) I told the person who recommended it that I might consider it... only if he would allow me to operate on him next time he needed surgery, since I know as much about surgery as this guy did about history. James Reston is a journalist, not a historian - he goes for the most sensational interpretation every time, and doesn't know how to evaluate the different sources. The same is true of David Boyle (Blondel's Song): he's an economist, and quite out of his depth on the politics and culture of 12C.

Date: 2007-01-28 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fajrdrako.livejournal.com
I just started watching Firefly and noting how like Cowboy Bebop it was!

Does this come under the heading of great minds thinking alike? Or just recognizing great shared themes in a show?

The best thing is - both shows are good, and they're different, they're just alike enough that you can see the resemblance and enjoy it.

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