Ultimate beauty...

[fajrdrako]

Sometimes I think each quiz I encounter is sillier than the last, but I stil do 'em. This was Which Ultimate Beautiful Woman are You? I got it from idiotgrrl, who gets to be Hell's Librarian - I like her results more than mine. Not that being the ultimate sex goddess whom all men want and all women envy is necessarily a bad thing, but it sounds way too heterosexual for my personal style... and maybe sort of shallow? Not that I've anything against Ultimate Beauty, but I's rather be Cheryl Tiegs or Louise Brooks than Aphrodite.

I think I need to revise the archetypes of mythical sex goddesses.

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[kikibug13.livejournal.com]

Well, I'd say sex goddess is a sex goddess... And I wouldn't think it is really hetero. (Well, my theory is that we are all basically bi, with one or the other aspect more prominent, so I _don't_ think The Sex Goddess is all-hetero. Of course, I may be wrong).

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Well, I was thinking specifically of the wording of the text: "Men yearn after you" - If it said "Men an women yearn after you" I'd have quibbled less. In fact I'd have been quite chuffed by the idea.

my theory is that we are all basically bi,

I've always liked that notion, but of course, I would. The full truth about human sexuality is still to be uncovered, meanwhile we make it up as we go....

[kikibug13.livejournal.com]

Well, I was thinking specifically of the wording of the text: "Men yearn after you" - If it said "Men an women yearn after you" I'd have quibbled less

Ah. Well, some people have limited imagination...

(me, I'm rather hetero so far, but oh well, I don't close my mind and heart!)

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Seems to me there are beautiful people wherever we look in this world, regardless of gender. Look at your beautiful icon here, for example!

[silverwhistle.livejournal.com]

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[kikibug13.livejournal.com]

Precisely. (I mean, I've been trying not to spend too much time looking at it. I have also been valiantly resisting the temptation to see Day One for the second time. Or Everything Changes, for that matter...)

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

It's difficult, isn't it? Last week I was able to indulge in repeated viewings. This week I have been much more busy (and not home) and have only seen "Ghost Machine" once. Let's see if I can hold off till, say, Saturday for a second viewing. Or watch the first two one more time.... Or even just the Captain Jack scenes....

(Sigh. Hopeless case.)

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

You got the librarian! Lucky.

I wonder why I didn't?

[silverwhistle.livejournal.com]

Not sure how the questions are rigged.

I liked the character-description on the Librarian. It's pretty much me to a T. At various times, my researches have taken me into some very dark places (if you ever want to know about torture methods in Petrine Russia, I can tell you more than you'd want to know; I'm also quite well-up on 18-19C military surgery), but it's all in a day's work...

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

One of the things I like about history is that it encompasses everything. Any subject, any discipline you can think of, has a history. And since truth is always stranger than you imagine and stranger than you can imagine, it leads to some very odd places.

If I ever need to know about torture in Petrine Russia, you are the first person I will ask.

[silverwhistle.livejournal.com]

Yup...
I think this is why, over the years, people sometimes have accused me of being "insensitive" or "less than compassionate" or "hard as nails". I'm not, but I've had to learn to steel myself to get through some research and reading (no good doing as I did in my First Year, breaking down in tears in my room, as I read the numbers of mass burnings in the Albigensian Crusade). As a result, I'm not always very tolerant of public emoting over what often seem to me comparatively trivial concerns. I'm also all too aware that getting worked up over events you can neither change nor influence is very counterproductive: you're not having a positive effect on that situation, and you're just upsetting yourself. In a small way (I wish I could do more), I support some charities as a result of my historical passions, but it's not something I tend to wear on my sleeve.

If I ever need to know about torture in Petrine Russia, you are the first person I will ask.

It's deeply disturbing stuff. Psycho Pete (as I call him) managed to square flogging and beheading his own former mistress for 2 alleged abortions and one infanticide (which was probably a natural miscarriage, but the remains improperly disposed of), at the same time that he was torturing his own son to death on questionable treason charges. Evidently he felt it was more entertaining to let them grow up first...

[silverwhistle.livejournal.com]

"my theory is that we are all basically bi,"
I've always liked that notion, but of course, I would. The full truth about human sexuality is still to be uncovered, meanwhile we make it up as we go....

I think it's more of a sliding scale. At different times in one's life one may be at different place on it. And different people have different levels of sex-drive, too. I'm pretty much bi-emotional: I love beauty in men and women alike, and can crush on either. But physically, I'm a-sexual (someone still has to wrangle the unicorns!).

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so, well, to consider I am sometimes wondering I am not tending a bit too much towards emotional exhibitionism (but never physical) I was puzzled. oh well....

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I don't know how suitable it is for you - though I guess being mysterious is not a bad thing! The picture is beautiful.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I think it's more of a sliding scale.

I certainly agree that many people change orientation over the course of time, some of them radically. (Though I don't think I've ever changed.)
Certainly different people have different levels of sex drive, and that too can vary in a person's life.

But the idea of a sliding scale makes me think of the Kinsey scale, which has never made a lot of sense to me - I think it skews the reality by assigning numbers and position to something that is both fluid and unquantifiable. It is an attempt to pin it down scientifically - but sexuality is not quite so pinnable.

[wijsgeer.livejournal.com]

I looked at all possible results and non of them realy suits me. I guess the librarian might come closer, but no. I would have liked a jester figure. (it is a common trope in folclore so they might just have well). If not jester I would like a wise woman (ok I know it is much to ask for yourself, but it goes with my name and profession, it is something to strife for, or am expect of you enlarged, non of these figures need to be taken literally).

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

A Jester! That's a good one. I aspire to be a wise woman. (Still working on it.) My favourite archetype for myself if 'magician'. Or, failing that, the Queen of Swords.

Seems to me that archetypes for men tend to be based on personality, archetypes for women based on sexuality. Or am I just in a mood to read things with a feminist slant today?

[cupati.livejournal.com]

I got mystery too - I tink it's their "none of the above" box.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I have never been accused of lack of compassion (as far as I remember) but I have noticed that a knowledge of history often gives me a perspective on current events that it somewhat less emotional than reactions of those around me. I too have grieved for individuals in the past and present, and certain terrible events - but there is no shortage of terrible events in the past or the present. I suppose the right attitude is to accept it with courage, or try to fix things, or to show a sort of impersonal compassion.

As for Psycho Pete - good name - there are some people it's really better not to be related to. (Shudder.) Or to become involved with. Certain famous Roman emperors spring to mind. Psychopaths do like to have infinite power over others, and to use it.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Well, it's a cool one!

I should have gone for mystery. But I guess we don't really get the choice....

[wijsgeer.livejournal.com]

no, I don't think so. (or if you do, I do so along with you.)

Did you look at the list of possible answers? I got most peeved at the 'naughty office girl' [bleh] and also the 'innocent girl' I can so not see them being used for men. Well, I can imagine using them, but not that they are part of mainstream. (and these female arche=types all are to a certain extend)

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

Yes, I agree with that. Not very interesting formulae - more like stereotypes than archtypes, anyway!

[wijsgeer.livejournal.com]

well, stereotypes are based on something. I guess that to a certain extent they are based on archetypes. Or some of them are. (a watered down version?)

[silverwhistle.livejournal.com]

I have never been accused of lack of compassion (as far as I remember) but I have noticed that a knowledge of history often gives me a perspective on current events that it somewhat less emotional than reactions of those around me.

I find it difficult to feign emotion in the interests of social conformity. I don't do compassion-in-the-abstract. The people who were particularly unpleasant with accusations were some (now ex-)friends who took exception to the fact I'm neither a vegetarian nor a pacifist, regard human rights as more important than animal rights, and I wear vintage fur (including the collar which was on the coat my mother wore on her first date with my dad, which is thus a very important relic!).

At least people can be assured that, while I don't emote a great deal, what I feel is genuine.

[fajrdrako.livejournal.com]

I believe that everyone has the right - or the duty - to make their own moral choices. This of course includes the psychopaths (like Peter!) and the various other nasties, and it's for the better if society can keep them under control. But in the cases you cite, personal morality is slipping over into political dogmatism, and just as I wouldn't demand that a vegetarian should eat meat, I wouldn't demand that an omnivore should not.

As for fur - well, I wear leather a lot, and don't feel guilty about it. Shoes particularly. My take on the matter is that in eating and using animal products, there is a cycle of life and death in which I am participating. I also think some people thrive on a vegetarian diet better than others, which is another reason no one should demand it of anyone else.

In less theoretical terms, I don't think the problem of man's abuse of the animal kingdom or the world at large has anything to do with moral choices regarding lifestyle: it's because there are simply too many of us. That problem won't be solved by not wearing mink or eating soybeans.

What I feel (and say) is genuine too, but there are many political/moral matters about which I don't express my opinions at all - I know I'm in an intifinitesimal minority with my views and don't particularly want to argue about it with anyone. Che sera sera!